Locking tuners and strings with low tension

[switchman]

I do similar. I loosen the strings, place a capo high up on the neck to hold the strings in place, then unbolt the neck and fold it out of the way.

All except Telecasters. I friggin' hate changing the bridge pup on a Tele. (Unless, maybe, if it's my own.) :headbang:

These folks on eBay have got you covered. They'll supply the separate cutdown pickup plate to use with a cutdown 3 saddle Tele bridge. It's a Tele pickup swapper's dream!

I'm sure there's an argument how it affects ~something~ not being all one integral piece... I've seen more generic ones without flanges too, to use with a regular hardtail bridge.

 

[Artie]

Yeah . . . I've seen those. But I don't really want to change the traditional look of my Tele. Can't do it with a customers Tele.

BTW, your link isn't working, but I know what you're talking about.

 

[ICTGoober]

The whole point of locking tuners is to eliminate any chance of string slippage dues to winds around the post. If you are still winding strings around the post of your locking tuners, you wasted your money. Strings are CHEAP, and if you are changing pickups put on a fresh set of steel instead of re-using your nasty old worn and dirty strings.

 

[JMP/HBE]

The whole point of locking tuners is to eliminate any chance of string slippage dues to winds around the post. If you are still winding strings around the post of your locking tuners, you wasted your money. Strings are CHEAP, and if you are changing pickups put on a fresh set of steel instead of re-using your nasty old worn and dirty strings.

In your opine of course.
Locking is locking and tuners are tuners.
Winds are a personal preference like boob size & hair color.

 

[switchman]

That link to the pickup plate should work now.. I could see it on an upscale bound Tele with a nice maple top where its already a little not vintage.

I find even if you pull straight through and lock , the B and E can end up with a wrap getting them up to pitch. Sometimes I'd pull the string through the post with a needle nose pliers while tilting the headstock upwards and the end of the body resting on the workbench. Making the string tight as possible before locking the thumbwheel gets the least wrap possible.

Cheap strings are cheap but coated extended life strings aren't. With locking tuners I find those strings break at the point where they're clamped from the stress of detuning and retuning - like when working on the guitar - before they have a chance to get nasty old and dirty.. A wrap lessens that issue. Also these are fixed bridge guitars I'm talking about that are setup properly and don't have tuning problems anyway.

 

[Mincer]

Yeah, I don't bother with coated strings as outside shows here kill those in one show as well, so it isn't worth spending the money.

 

[jeremy]

i dont use coated strings on my electrics, but i do on my acoustics. i seldom play the acoustics, even though they are great guitars, so using coated strings mean i dont need a tetanus shot when i pick them up.

i like locking tuners, but i dont replace a tuner unless its not performing well. i use wraps to intentionally create more down angle at the nut for some guitars, but otherwise dont worry about it too much

 

[donaldr]

...and no more than 1 wrap (if that) around the post. Fast string changes! I'd be ok if we got rid of tuners as we know them altogether. It is an archaic system.

There's so much archaic stuff on a guitar but the problem is guitar players are still living in 1950 and with the "if it worked for Jimmy and Stevie Ray why would I change it?"

XLR output jack instead of 1/4" TS jack and a standard solderless pickup/electronic system would be also huge improvements.

 

[Mincer]

There's so much archaic stuff on a guitar but the problem is guitar players are still living in 1950 and with the "if it worked for Jimmy and Stevie Ray why would I change it?"

XLR output jack instead of 1/4" TS jack and a standard solderless pickup/electronic system would be also huge improvements.

I'm with ya, there.
But I'd really want a secure wireless technology that works well. If it had to be a cable, I'd re-design the XLR so it is about 1/3 the size.

 

[Securb]

i dont use coated strings on my electrics, but i do on my acoustics. i seldom play the acoustics, even though they are great guitars, so using coated strings mean i dont need a tetanus shot when i pick them up.

That is a good idea I should get some for my nylon string.

 

[JMP/HBE]

Whats not to like ?

 

[switchman]

I would love to see some more modern ideas like better tuners or cabling but I don't think guitar companies are setup to deliver them. Musical instruments are different from true consumer electronics products.

Yes failures of new tech in guitars are often because the market is overly steeped in tradition. There's also the legacy that electric guitars bought 50-75 years ago still work today because they're simple analog machines. Buy a decent guitar, take care of it, and maybe you can give it to the kids or grandkids in 25 to 50 years.

When more complex tech is introduced it crosses into the consumer electronics space. Now they have to consider making more special components available for repair and maybe even software support and eventually some things just can't be made to work anymore.

Even analog mechanical innovations that were too specialized like the Floyd Rose Speedloader guitars have become mostly useless because they stopped making the​ strings.

 

[Mincer]

Some of the tech doesn't need to be complex. The Floyd was a simple clamp, and it revolutionized rock guitar. Locking tuners are really common, and are not much more technically evolved than vintage tuners. I wouldn't want to shove a bunch of technology into guitars, but just better ways of doing things would be nice.

 

[ehdwuld]

If i am janking with a nut or something
I will place a finger under the strings and thwn lock thw string
so I will have enough pul the string aside while I sort it out

But if it's good when I take em off

I give the fretboard a bath and synch them down

 

[Securb]

Some of the tech doesn't need to be complex.

There are plenty of guitar innovations that should be standard by now but tradition won't let it happen. Composite fretboards, stainless steel frets, strap locks, LSR or graphite nuts, locking tuners...no reason for them not to be on most guitar.

 

[ehdwuld]

I have become fond of zero frets

 

[Mincer]

There are plenty of guitar innovations that should be standard by now but tradition won't let it happen. Composite fretboards, stainless steel frets, strap locks, LSR or graphite nuts, locking tuners...no reason for them not to be on most guitar.

All great ideas that need more widespread use.

I have become fond of zero frets

These should really be standard these days.

 

[RanchManSandy]

locking tuners with multiple wraps seems so silly. I don't even want a full wrap, a half or 3/4 is ideal ime, otherwise it's just more string that can stretch and become a li'l slopped

 

[JMP/HBE]

locking tuners with multiple wraps seems so silly. I don't even want a full wrap, a half or 3/4 is ideal ime, otherwise it's just more string that can stretch and become a li'l slopped

What really "silly" is why some random person would make a comment about another random person over a wrap of string on a guitar.
As if it mattered.

 

[ehdwuld]

What really "silly" is why some random person would make a comment about another random person over a wrap of string on a guitar.
As if it mattered.

what is silly is getting offended over a disagreement
that doesnt matter

oh well, move on