Burkwieser
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I am replacing my pups in my Charvel. I am thinking JB or Distortion for the bridge.
Looking for a good SSH pup combination
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Lewguitar
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Re: Looking for a good SSH pup combination
Hi Cory, It really depends on the neck and middle pickups. If they are high output single coils than maybe the JB or Distortion would not overpower them...but my guess is that either of those HB's would overpower most single coils.
I would suggest the 59Trembucker instead.
Lew
Hi Cory, It really depends on the neck and middle pickups. If they are high output single coils than maybe the JB or Distortion would not overpower them...but my guess is that either of those HB's would overpower most single coils.
I would suggest the 59Trembucker instead.
Lew
Burkwieser
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Re: Looking for a good SSH pup combination
Ya, your right. The guitar originally had a JB in it, but it is in bad shape. The two current single coils are bladed type. Not sure what they are, and I want to replace them. So I guess I am looking for suggestions on some good high output single coils.
Lewguitar said:
Ya, your right. The guitar originally had a JB in it, but it is in bad shape. The two current single coils are bladed type. Not sure what they are, and I want to replace them. So I guess I am looking for suggestions on some good high output single coils.
Re: Looking for a good SSH pup combination
Lew, how hot (D.C. Resistance) do single coils need to be to pair with a JB (D.C. Resistance = 16.4)?
Would 6.8 or 7.5 work?
What ratio do you normally want to achieve between single coil D.C. Resistance and bridge humbucker D.C. Resistance?
Lew, how hot (D.C. Resistance) do single coils need to be to pair with a JB (D.C. Resistance = 16.4)?
Would 6.8 or 7.5 work?
What ratio do you normally want to achieve between single coil D.C. Resistance and bridge humbucker D.C. Resistance?
Gamera
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Re: Looking for a good SSH pup combination
What sort of switching do you have in that guitar? I ask because it's not uncommon to have a HB that's roughly twice the DC resistance of the singles. This allows you to split the HB and only use the inside coil and still "match" the other singles. There would be a fairly noticeable difference in output when using the HB though. But depending on your playing style this can always be worked around.
If you're really concerned about matching output levels though, and you did say you wanted a "high output" single, use the SD Tone Chart as a general guide. Find a HB and singles that have rougly the same DC resistance. I say roughly because actually DC resistance is only a single factor in determining how a pup sounds. And I've had pretty good results mixing pups that aren't perfectly "matched."
What sort of switching do you have in that guitar? I ask because it's not uncommon to have a HB that's roughly twice the DC resistance of the singles. This allows you to split the HB and only use the inside coil and still "match" the other singles. There would be a fairly noticeable difference in output when using the HB though. But depending on your playing style this can always be worked around.
If you're really concerned about matching output levels though, and you did say you wanted a "high output" single, use the SD Tone Chart as a general guide. Find a HB and singles that have rougly the same DC resistance. I say roughly because actually DC resistance is only a single factor in determining how a pup sounds. And I've had pretty good results mixing pups that aren't perfectly "matched."
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Lewguitar
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Re: Looking for a good SSH pup combination
I lack experiance with Rails type pickups, single coil or otherwise...just not my style.
I had a JB Trembucker in my Strat with a pair of Lindy Fralin 7K Blues Special single coils that Lindy overwound for me to about 15% hotter than a 6K Vintage Strat single coil and I felt that the JB still overpowered the single coils.
The 59B or 59TB was a better match...even with the overwound Fralin Blues Specials.
That's about all I can tell you.
I lack experiance with Rails type pickups, single coil or otherwise...just not my style.
I had a JB Trembucker in my Strat with a pair of Lindy Fralin 7K Blues Special single coils that Lindy overwound for me to about 15% hotter than a 6K Vintage Strat single coil and I felt that the JB still overpowered the single coils.
The 59B or 59TB was a better match...even with the overwound Fralin Blues Specials.
That's about all I can tell you.
Re: Looking for a good SSH pup combination
I play a Strat Ultra, which is H-S-S with 5-way switching and a three-way toggle for coil tap and phase.
You hit the nail on the head - I am so interested in a JB because it has a reputation for such a good coil tap sound.
I am planning on getting Kinman neck and middle pu's (not sure which yet, but certainly one of Kinman's higher output models, Woodstocks or Hank Marvins).
I just want to choose the right Kinmans and the right hb'er to get good in-between sounds and avoid PROBLEMATIC volume disparities. I realize there will some some disparity if I am matching a hb'er with singlecoils and want it to be powerful enough to sound good when.
Gamera said:
I play a Strat Ultra, which is H-S-S with 5-way switching and a three-way toggle for coil tap and phase.
You hit the nail on the head - I am so interested in a JB because it has a reputation for such a good coil tap sound.
I am planning on getting Kinman neck and middle pu's (not sure which yet, but certainly one of Kinman's higher output models, Woodstocks or Hank Marvins).
I just want to choose the right Kinmans and the right hb'er to get good in-between sounds and avoid PROBLEMATIC volume disparities. I realize there will some some disparity if I am matching a hb'er with singlecoils and want it to be powerful enough to sound good when.
dystrust
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Re: Looking for a good SSH pup combination
Classic Stacks match pretty well with a JB. I used to have a H/S/S Strat with two Classic Stacks and a Custom 5. I later changed this to Cool Rail/Vintage Rail/Custom 5. I have since removed the middle Vintage Rail in the guitar since I didn't use it very often.
I like to use hum-cancelling pickups in a H/S/S guitar as this type of guitar is typically played with high gain and traditional single coils can get rather noisy.
Classic Stacks match pretty well with a JB. I used to have a H/S/S Strat with two Classic Stacks and a Custom 5. I later changed this to Cool Rail/Vintage Rail/Custom 5. I have since removed the middle Vintage Rail in the guitar since I didn't use it very often.
I like to use hum-cancelling pickups in a H/S/S guitar as this type of guitar is typically played with high gain and traditional single coils can get rather noisy.
Gamera
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Re: Looking for a good SSH pup combination
Dunno. Maybe ask Kinman what he'd recommend and whether or not it'll be a problem.
You may also want to consider some Bill Lawrence pups. His stuff rocks and he offers some specific examples of which of his pups work in an HSS combo. In fact I think he says his personal Fat Strat style guitar is loaded with 280's & a 450.
You've got a Strat Ultra? Isn't that the precursor to the Clapton model with the active boost circuitry? Can you control that boost or is it always "on?" Because if you can control it that may be a solution to better matching output between pups.
sean hood said:
Dunno. Maybe ask Kinman what he'd recommend and whether or not it'll be a problem.
You may also want to consider some Bill Lawrence pups. His stuff rocks and he offers some specific examples of which of his pups work in an HSS combo. In fact I think he says his personal Fat Strat style guitar is loaded with 280's & a 450.
You've got a Strat Ultra? Isn't that the precursor to the Clapton model with the active boost circuitry? Can you control that boost or is it always "on?" Because if you can control it that may be a solution to better matching output between pups.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: Looking for a good SSH pup combination
My old Kramer had a JB with split and parrallel switching and it was paired stock with APS-1's....but in normal mode the JB overpowers the APS-1's.
It is less noticed when overdriven, since the singlecoils are way more open, and the guitar has a fat voice on its own.
My old Kramer had a JB with split and parrallel switching and it was paired stock with APS-1's....but in normal mode the JB overpowers the APS-1's.
It is less noticed when overdriven, since the singlecoils are way more open, and the guitar has a fat voice on its own.
Re: Looking for a good SSH pup combination
I've asked Kinman and did not get a great response - he's very sc oriented. I think I will re-phrase and try again.
The Strat Ultra was produced in the late 80's/early-mid 90's (mine's a '91) and is essentially a Strat Plus with dual Sensors at the bridge and an ebony fingerboard. It has the TBX control, not the Clapton active boost.
Gamera said:
I've asked Kinman and did not get a great response - he's very sc oriented. I think I will re-phrase and try again.
The Strat Ultra was produced in the late 80's/early-mid 90's (mine's a '91) and is essentially a Strat Plus with dual Sensors at the bridge and an ebony fingerboard. It has the TBX control, not the Clapton active boost.
frankencat
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Re: Looking for a good SSH pup combination
I just sold my Charvel 375 Deluxe which had EMG SA-SA-85 setup in it and that thing sounded incredible. I also have two other H-S-S Jacksons and a 2 hum Jackson. The EMG's have a very distintive sound that you have to want or you wil hate them. As far as passive pickups go, I like the sound of true single coils and my favorites are the SSL-2's and SSL-6's. SSL-6's for a darker/chunkier sound and SSL-2's for a more vintage/jangly sound. I mostly use Pearly Gates humbuckers but I have the C5 and Custom in the bridges of two of my guitars and my favorite hard-rockin combo at the moment is SSL-6's in neck and middle and a Custom in the bridge. A cool variation on that would be an SSL-6 in the neck, SSL-2 in the middle, and a Pearly Gates in the bridge. That would be the most versatile setup going from super clean to flat out rockin. My 2c.
I just sold my Charvel 375 Deluxe which had EMG SA-SA-85 setup in it and that thing sounded incredible. I also have two other H-S-S Jacksons and a 2 hum Jackson. The EMG's have a very distintive sound that you have to want or you wil hate them. As far as passive pickups go, I like the sound of true single coils and my favorites are the SSL-2's and SSL-6's. SSL-6's for a darker/chunkier sound and SSL-2's for a more vintage/jangly sound. I mostly use Pearly Gates humbuckers but I have the C5 and Custom in the bridges of two of my guitars and my favorite hard-rockin combo at the moment is SSL-6's in neck and middle and a Custom in the bridge. A cool variation on that would be an SSL-6 in the neck, SSL-2 in the middle, and a Pearly Gates in the bridge. That would be the most versatile setup going from super clean to flat out rockin. My 2c.
Travis
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Re: Looking for a good SSH pup combination
The Distortion is the best metal riffing pickup ever. One of my Charvels has a Distortion paired with a Cool Rails in the mid and a Hot Rails in the neck. No problems with output differences. It is a very versatile guitar, works well for extreme metal, hard rock, and blues.
The Distortion is the best metal riffing pickup ever. One of my Charvels has a Distortion paired with a Cool Rails in the mid and a Hot Rails in the neck. No problems with output differences. It is a very versatile guitar, works well for extreme metal, hard rock, and blues.
