Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

[Duke of Metal]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

hey guys,
well, i lowered the neck pickup and raised the Bridge pickup a bit more on the Low E side and that seemed to make things better. Tomorrow gonna try to lower the neck pickup even more and see if it makes any difference.

Any yes, I did replace the Low E with a new one :laugh2:


thanks

 

[Duke of Metal]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

Well guys.. i've tried a whole bunch of things and none seemed to help at all. Do you guys think it could be the pickup it self?

Maybe somthing gone bad or messed up in it??


Thanks

 

[TheProphet]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

Duke, take a look at the nut. I had a similar problem with an E that was sounding really 'tubby' I had them look at the nut and reslot it as the string wasn't sitting in there properly


Just an idea since nothing seems to be working so far

 

[MattPete]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

hey guys,
As some you know i put a Duncan Custom Sh-5 in the bridge of my Lespaul.. but for some reason, the low E never really sounded that good. I tried many options but nothing seems to work.

It sounds muddy & fizzy. I cant do palm mutes on it. but when I play on the A or D string, it sounds very defined, tight and clean. But not on the low E.

the Custom in my avatar can sound flabby at times on the low-E. I put it down to an interaction between the chambered body and the floating bridge, but it may very well be the Custom. Considering that it sounds fantastic everywhere else, it doesn't bother me too much. After all, I have other guitars for chugga-chugga.

One thing you might want to try is to raise the bass side of the pickup a little and screw the pole pieces so that they go into the bobbin a bit (i.e. the slugs are closer to the strings than the screws). I don't know if it will help, but it can't hurt.

I'm in a hotel right now, so I can't look at my strat with the Custom, but I'm pretty sure that I ended up doing the opposite: lowered the base side a tad and raise the pole pieces on the bridge side, so that they could "sample" a more treble version of the signal a little bit more in an attempt to get rid of the occasional tubbyness.

Having said that, I've never found the Custom to be muddy on the low strings, just a little flabby (or maybe it's the guitar?).

Also, a Les Paul isn't always the greatest on the low E. If you want more attack and less flab, you'll need a Fender scale guitar with a maple neck. Another option might be to go up a gauge on the low E.

 

[MattPete]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

One more thing: A swamp ash strat with humbuckers will have more punch on the low E than a Les Paul. The Les Paul may have more bass, but a swamp ash strat will have a quicker attacker. It's just the nature of the beast.

 

[Duke of Metal]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

Duke, take a look at the nut. I had a similar problem with an E that was sounding really 'tubby' I had them look at the nut and reslot it as the string wasn't sitting in there properly

Just an idea since nothing seems to be working so far

Yeah.. that sounds like an idea. I'll keep it in mind but gonna try as little things as possible first before going into hardware changes. My bro's buddy is gonna bring his ibanez over sometime to try through my rig and gonna see if it does that sound with his guitar.

the Custom in my avatar can sound flabby at times on the low-E. I put it down to an interaction between the chambered body and the floating bridge, but it may very well be the Custom. Considering that it sounds fantastic everywhere else, it doesn't bother me too much. After all, I have other guitars for chugga-chugga.

One thing you might want to try is to raise the bass side of the pickup a little and screw the pole pieces so that they go into the bobbin a bit (i.e. the slugs are closer to the strings than the screws). I don't know if it will help, but it can't hurt.

I'm in a hotel right now, so I can't look at my strat with the Custom, but I'm pretty sure that I ended up doing the opposite: lowered the base side a tad and raise the pole pieces on the bridge side, so that they could "sample" a more treble version of the signal a little bit more in an attempt to get rid of the occasional tubbyness.

Having said that, I've never found the Custom to be muddy on the low strings, just a little flabby (or maybe it's the guitar?).

Also, a Les Paul isn't always the greatest on the low E. If you want more attack and less flab, you'll need a Fender scale guitar with a maple neck. Another option might be to go up a gauge on the low E.

Maybe I should look into a pickup with Less bass and more attack? maybe somthing like the Duncan Distortion or Screaming Demon?? cause to be honest, my setup isnt lacking bass/low end. Maybe try somthing like a Duncan Distortion or Duncan Demon in the bridge and put the custom in the neck??


Thanks

 

[Metalblaze]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

Also, a Les Paul isn't always the greatest on the low E. If you want more attack and less flab, you'll need a Fender scale guitar with a maple neck.

That's exactly what I was thinking. The Custom has plenty of attack but I think that it's the amount of bass with the darker nature of the LP that sounds like this. Just a thought.

 

[SepultuRick]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

i am having almost the exact same problem as duke, i got my sh5 custom fitted yesterday and i have noticed that my low e lacks punch and definition and also the high e is a little mushy. i huse my custom in a flying v basswood body

 

[neckcutta]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

Hmm. Interesting thread considering I'm about to get a Custom to go in my Les Paul.
So are you guys basically suggesting that instead of a more bass-heavy pick up, such as the sh-5, in an already heavy-sounding guitar (LP), maybe a brighter-sounding pickup (JB) to even out the bass?

I've been debating back and forth between the JB and Custom for a while now and this thread only keeps it going...

 

[SheDoesntDoIt4Me]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

Is it a Epiphone Les Paul or a Gibson? Ive seen this on about 1/2 of all the epiphones Ive ever picked up. I dont know what it is but I know it sucks.

 

[vinterland]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

Just wanted to say I have a PRS with a custom in it and the low E has no definition as well. I've eq'd till I can't eq anymore and it doesn't seem to get much better. I even had a professional setup on my pickups and bridge because of this and it still didn't do anything. Its playable its just not that good, but every other string sounds good.

 

[WITH FULL DISTORTION]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

Holy ****... let´s call Evan, scott or MJ or seymour hi,self to solve this problem.
COULD BE A BASS BUG in the C5.

 

[Duke of Metal]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

Since the posting is up this far, then i might as well update.

I've tried many different things. from changing the string with a new one, lowering the bridge pickup, the neck pickup, etc.. and they're all the same.

It seemed to sorta (not completely) fix the problem when I tune my Low E to droped D, but again, that doesnt do it for me as I hardly ever play in droped D.

I am gonna look into a different pickup like the Distortion as I also feel the need of a bit more mids as the Custom sounds a bit scooped to my ears. So if you have a Duncan Distortion for sale, PM me

anyways.. thats all for now!


Duke

 

[SepultuRick]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

although i have only had the custom a few days i am already wondering which pickup to buy next its a great pickup unless you play a lot of palm muting on the low E. yes i have only had it a few days and yes i will give it more time and try new things to get the palm muted sound i want.

i wonder, has anybody who owns a custom had great definition and great palm muted sounds from their low E?

if i can't fix the problem i am considering a distortion or a jb

 

[SepultuRick]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

I have actually fixed the problem of the mushy sounding high e string, the string wasn't slotted in the groove of the nut properly, the low E is still lacking definition though, i am gonna try a thicker string cos the string i have at the minute sits very low in the nut

 

[Duke of Metal]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

I have actually fixed the problem of the mushy sounding high e string, the string wasn't slotted in the grrove of the nut properly, the low E is till lacking definition though, i am gonna try a thicker string cos the string i have at the minute dits very low in the nut

hmm.. i'll try that for sure too.

Thanks for the tip.


Duke

 

[Nightburst]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

I have a Custom in an Epi LP and have no problems at all with Palm muting or the low E being flabby. I still have the stock nut on it too.

How do you guys Eq your amps? Try using more treble or presence.

 

[SepultuRick]

Re: Low E has no defintion/Punch (Duncan Custom Sh-5 content)

hmmm