Low Wind Neck HB with A8?

[Chistopher]

I got a pickup winder a few weeks back and was having some fun with it. I was wondering if any of y'all have ever tried a low wind, as in underwound PAF territory, with a strong magnet like an A8. I've done the same thing in the bridge before, a double screw 5k A8 humbucker. It was a bit too bright for me, so I turned the wire into a single coil. Has anyone tried something like this in the neck? Maybe with a double thick A8?

 

[jeremy]

Re: Low Wind Neck HB with A8?

i dont usually care for a8 magnets so no, i havent done that. a8 always sounds hard to me. not a bad thing but not for me. as far as low wind pups, they can be very cool.

a 5k humbucker? how many turns on each coil? thats pretty light alright!

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Low Wind Neck HB with A8?

A 5k humbucker? how many turns on each coil? thats pretty light alright!

About 3000 of 42 guage on each. I also wound one with 7000 turns and one with 9000 to see how much scatterwinding affects pickups at different "heat settings" of pickups with similar winds and identical construction.

 

[AlexR]

Re: Low Wind Neck HB with A8?

Low wind pickups have been done with strong magnets before. The G&L MFD ones are using ceramic, as are the Gibson Tarbacks.
With less wire and more magnet contribution much more skill comes into the wind. And I think tonally they are more polarising in opinion.

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Low Wind Neck HB with A8?

Low wind pickups have been done with strong magnets before. The G&L MFD ones are using ceramic, as are the Gibson Tarbacks.
With less wire and more magnet contribution much more skill comes into the wind. And I think tonally they are more polarising in opinion.

Weak wind with a ceramic? That seems interesting, to put it kindly. But what I was originally thinking about trying was going one of two roads. I could use a bright wind and a dark magnet, like an A6. This type of thinking came up with lipstick tubes. The alternative would be high resistance wire for the low wind, like aluminum, and then try to come up with ways to compensate for the dark wind.

I did some more experimenting and these are my best bets so far:

Low wind aluminum with either some form of A5 or ceramic. I could possible compensate for the high amounts of resistance in aluminum with either mismatched coils and/or scatterwinding.

OR

Low wind copper with A6 or A8. This would be to try to beef up the power and tame the high end.

Has no one seriously tried this? The prototypes I've got working show promise, but given I've only been winding for a few weeks, they have quite a bit of room for improvement.

 

[chadd]

Re: Low Wind Neck HB with A8?

Has no one seriously tried this? The prototypes I've got working show promise, but given I've only been winding for a few weeks, they have quite a bit of room for improvement.

Intentionally extreme juxtaposition is rarely an avenue that leads to success (in any field) in my experience.

 

[AlexR]

Re: Low Wind Neck HB with A8?

The alternative would be high resistance wire for the low wind, like aluminum, and then try to come up with ways to compensate for the dark wind.

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Wire that has high resistance is not an aspect you should be looking for. Remember....K doesn't equal output. Copper is used as it generates a decent current like silver (Zephyrs), but just making the wire less effective at generation is not doing anything useful. And nobody winds with anything else - in fact I can't think of too many electrical applications that don't use copper. Its the best tool for the job given the fractions of energy involved.
We use K mainly as it enables a comparison of wire length within a gauge.....not because it is a useful pickup parameter in and of itself.

 

[Demanic]

Re: Low Wind Neck HB with A8?

Lace Alumitones use aluminum. I suppose that it's technically not wire though.

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[Chistopher]

Re: Low Wind Neck HB with A8?

Lace Alumitones use aluminum. I suppose that it's technically not wire though.

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That's what I was looking at, but they are a aluminum frame that acts as the inductor, I'm trying to do the same thing, but with the wire.