LP Studio's
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phil_104
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Re: LP Studio's
I had one a few years back. Studio faded. Changed out the pickups, changed the hardware to cream, it looked really good, sounded good also. I actually ended up selling it, because although I enjoyed it, every time I would pick it up, I would get this feeling that it was lacking a lot of things my 'perfect' les paul would have (binding, flame maple, etc.). I know it's superficial, but what ever.
Anyways, they are great guitars though, but you have to play them in person, as there are a lot of bad ones out there.
I had one a few years back. Studio faded. Changed out the pickups, changed the hardware to cream, it looked really good, sounded good also. I actually ended up selling it, because although I enjoyed it, every time I would pick it up, I would get this feeling that it was lacking a lot of things my 'perfect' les paul would have (binding, flame maple, etc.). I know it's superficial, but what ever.
Anyways, they are great guitars though, but you have to play them in person, as there are a lot of bad ones out there.
whatshisname
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They're great guitars, if you don't mind the lack of binding.
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Les-Paul-Studio-60s.aspx
These ones have a flame top.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Gibson-Les-Paul-Studio-Deluxe-Electric-Guitar-105475420-i1476659.gc
They're great guitars, if you don't mind the lack of binding.
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Les-Paul-Studio-60s.aspx
These ones have a flame top.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Gibson-Les-Paul-Studio-Deluxe-Electric-Guitar-105475420-i1476659.gc
ericmeyer4
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Re: LP Studio's
I had a brown studio faded a few years ago and I sold it because it felt like it was lacking a bit. Now it could have been the cable or the amp I was playing through at the time, but the guitar just sounded meh. Especially when played clean. This was all stock and maybe it would have benefited from a pickup change or it could have been that it was weight relieved or it could have been x, y, or z.
From a construction stand point the frets were good, it was well balanced, and it played well. It just kind of boring sounding.
Take my experience with a grain of salt because there were a number of factors that could have led to the "meh" sound.
I had a brown studio faded a few years ago and I sold it because it felt like it was lacking a bit. Now it could have been the cable or the amp I was playing through at the time, but the guitar just sounded meh. Especially when played clean. This was all stock and maybe it would have benefited from a pickup change or it could have been that it was weight relieved or it could have been x, y, or z.
From a construction stand point the frets were good, it was well balanced, and it played well. It just kind of boring sounding.
Take my experience with a grain of salt because there were a number of factors that could have led to the "meh" sound.
Re: LP Studio's
I'm just looking for the tone and I can live w/o the superficial stuff. It'd be nice...but not $400-$600 more nice. I am pulling a set of Duncan's (JB/Jazz) out of an '81 Ibby Artist because I want to drop the orig. Super 58's in. I could always stick them in an LP if I didn't dig the tones.
I'd like to hear more about the bridge "issue."
I'm just looking for the tone and I can live w/o the superficial stuff. It'd be nice...but not $400-$600 more nice. I am pulling a set of Duncan's (JB/Jazz) out of an '81 Ibby Artist because I want to drop the orig. Super 58's in. I could always stick them in an LP if I didn't dig the tones.
I'd like to hear more about the bridge "issue."
whatshisname
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Re: LP Studio's
There is no "bridge issue", unless you don't like the Nashville bridge that Gibson has been using for years. It's a none "issue", as far as I'm concerned.
There is no "bridge issue", unless you don't like the Nashville bridge that Gibson has been using for years. It's a none "issue", as far as I'm concerned.
Bass_Medic_05
Purveyor of Low End
Re: LP Studio's
I have friends that own them.....and seem to love them......
I have friends that own them.....and seem to love them......
TattooedCarrot
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Re: LP Studio's
Studio is the entry level Les Paul and is the lowest model that is still real Les Paul in all its tone and features. They come with (usually) undesirable pickups, and lack frills such as neck and body binding. I really like the white ones as the lack of binding isn't as aesthetically obvious and they come with ebony fretboards. Good guitars.
Studio is the entry level Les Paul and is the lowest model that is still real Les Paul in all its tone and features. They come with (usually) undesirable pickups, and lack frills such as neck and body binding. I really like the white ones as the lack of binding isn't as aesthetically obvious and they come with ebony fretboards. Good guitars.
whatshisname
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How's that? They come with the exact same Gibson USA pickups that Gibson uses in all of the other Les Pauls.
How's that? They come with the exact same Gibson USA pickups that Gibson uses in all of the other Les Pauls.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
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I don't care about binding. It's lighter than a standard too. win-win for me.
I don't care about binding. It's lighter than a standard too. win-win for me.
misterwhizzy
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Re: LP Studio's
The Studio Faded doesn't have the maple cap, right? Maybe that's why people don't like them as much. I've got a Fireburst Studio, and when someone else is playing it, it sounds GREAT.
The Studio Faded doesn't have the maple cap, right? Maybe that's why people don't like them as much. I've got a Fireburst Studio, and when someone else is playing it, it sounds GREAT.
drpietrzak
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Some of the old customs that people like do not have maple caps either as I recall.
Some of the old customs that people like do not have maple caps either as I recall.
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I have a faded black and so far as I can tell, the only shortcut from the construction point of view is that the body wood grain pores are not filled and there's no binding, both of which are purely cosmetic. I personally like black and like the feel of the grain, so I didn't lose anything in the deal. In fact I paid a lot less than a standard, or custom, or whatever. Pickups, pots, wiring, bridge, nut, tuners, etc. all seem to be more or less concurrent with the more expensive option. If I decide to change the pickups to the best I can possibly find, I'm still ahead considering the purchase price of a studio compared to their flagship models.
I have a faded black and so far as I can tell, the only shortcut from the construction point of view is that the body wood grain pores are not filled and there's no binding, both of which are purely cosmetic. I personally like black and like the feel of the grain, so I didn't lose anything in the deal. In fact I paid a lot less than a standard, or custom, or whatever. Pickups, pots, wiring, bridge, nut, tuners, etc. all seem to be more or less concurrent with the more expensive option. If I decide to change the pickups to the best I can possibly find, I'm still ahead considering the purchase price of a studio compared to their flagship models.
whatshisname
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Re: LP Studio's
The Vintage Mahogany doesn't have a maple top, but the others do.
One thing to note- There was a time when the Studios were built with an Alder, and Swamp Ash bodies. Around the same time, some of them also had Maple necks. I believe this was in the early Eighties, but don't quote me on that.
Of course, there were other models in more recent years(Voodoo, Smartwood for instance), which were also made from woods other than Mahogany.
The regular Studio models of today are Mahogany/Maple top/Mahogany neck. The same as the normal Les Paul Standards.
The Vintage Mahogany doesn't have a maple top, but the others do.
One thing to note- There was a time when the Studios were built with an Alder, and Swamp Ash bodies. Around the same time, some of them also had Maple necks. I believe this was in the early Eighties, but don't quote me on that.
Of course, there were other models in more recent years(Voodoo, Smartwood for instance), which were also made from woods other than Mahogany.
The regular Studio models of today are Mahogany/Maple top/Mahogany neck. The same as the normal Les Paul Standards.
TattooedCarrot
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Edit - Although I personally kinda like the 498T with a good set of 500k pots and new (non-ceramic) caps.
You are mistaken. The custom and the studio are the only Les Pauls that come stock with the 490R/498T anymore. The standard used to come with them, not anymore. Neither does the traditional or any of the historics. And those pickups are considered undesireable by most.
Edit - Although I personally kinda like the 498T with a good set of 500k pots and new (non-ceramic) caps.
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whatshisname
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As far as "undesireable by most" goes, it seems to me, that "most" folks don't care for ANY of Gibson's more recent (and by that, I really mean the last few decades) offerings.
All people do is ***** and moan that they don't sound like "real PAFs". All of the Burstbuckers are too hot/harsh/whatever.
I think I've heard LESS people complain about the '57 Classics. Those seem to be the "desirable" pickups. And they don't come in most of the guitars!
As far as "undesireable by most" goes, it seems to me, that "most" folks don't care for ANY of Gibson's more recent (and by that, I really mean the last few decades) offerings.
All people do is ***** and moan that they don't sound like "real PAFs". All of the Burstbuckers are too hot/harsh/whatever.
I think I've heard LESS people complain about the '57 Classics. Those seem to be the "desirable" pickups. And they don't come in most of the guitars!
whatshisname
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And that's just it. If people would realise that the pups that they don't like could be VASTLY improved, by simply upgrading there pot and caps. Sometimes it's not the pickups fault at all.
And that's just it. If people would realise that the pups that they don't like could be VASTLY improved, by simply upgrading there pot and caps. Sometimes it's not the pickups fault at all.
F
Funkfingers
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Re: LP Studio's
I was going to write something epic about the in and outs of Les Paul construction but I thought better of it.
Let's cut to the chase. In this kind of price bracket, the OP is probably better off finding a second pre-owned Ibanez Artist. Rather good electric guitars, if memory serves.
I was going to write something epic about the in and outs of Les Paul construction but I thought better of it.
Let's cut to the chase. In this kind of price bracket, the OP is probably better off finding a second pre-owned Ibanez Artist. Rather good electric guitars, if memory serves.
