Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

[strat_master]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

haha Guitarist thats hilarious, i live for this too. BUt honestly, its all opinion based, and to whom ever seems to dislike me i really coulnd't care less. There are alot of people here who are genuinely nice people, and there are some who are well... blow me.

 

[chcjunior]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

Both are good amps in their own right. Play both and see which one tickles your fancy, so to speak.

Bonus for the Single Rec are the facts it can use either 6L6's or EL34 and has seperate eq's for each channel. Minus would included that there is a lag when switching channels and that there's a learning curve in dialing in a good sound.

The DSL shares an eq for both channels, uses only EL34's, has no lag when channel switching and is extremely easy to dial in sounds off the bat.

In short, both are good sounding amps clean and dirty and are quite versatile.

 

[Guitarist]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

Both are good amps in their own right. Play both and see which one tickles your fancy, so to speak.

Bonus for the Single Rec are the facts it can use either 6L6's or EL34 and has seperate eq's for each channel. Minus would included that there is a lag when switching channels and that there's a learning curve in dialing in a good sound.

The DSL shares an eq for both channels, uses only EL34's, has no lag when channel switching and is extremely easy to dial in sounds off the bat.

In short, both are good sounding amps clean and dirty and are quite versatile.

Actually there's no lag when switching channels on the 50Wrs. That only occurs when your dealing with a Dual or Triple.

 

[chcjunior]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

Actually there's no lag when switching channels on the 50Wrs. That only occurs when your dealing with a Dual or Triple.

All I can say is I owned a Single Rec for 3 1/2 weeks and there was a signficant delay in the channel switching. I took it back, tried another Single Rec in the store and that one also had the lag. Mesa may have fixed that issue since.....but it was an issue.

 

[mrid]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

BUT there no need for you to act all high and mighty. No i did not get served, and quite frankly i could not care less.

Last time I checked, it's not "high and mighty" to point out the flaws in someone's argument.

Interestingly enough, by denying the fact that you got served in the first place and feigning disinterest afterwards when you realized that you were actually on the receiving end of a serving, you have just done yourself a great disservice that resulted in the extent of your servitude being amplified exponentially. :laugh2:

 

[FretFire]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

There's no lag in channel switching on my Rectoverb (which is a Single Rec w/ reverb basically). Also, it's a Series I so there is no switching between EL34 and 6L6. Also, I've heard that the Series II's seem to be tweaked to sound more like the Duals and Triples.

 

[A Skater]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

Well, I've played both, and I'll tell you this

Marshall DSL: Great amp, but it gives an old school distortion. But great cleans and mids.

Mesa Rectifier: Tons of gain, but weird clean channel.

Overall: If you can buy both, you get an ULTIMATE TONE COMBINATION. Otherwise, pick which ever one you want. I would go for marshall because i want great cleans (I use a dist pedal).

 

[MrHeavyMetal]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

I'd go with the DSL myself although the Mesa might be ok too. I would think that using a 4X12 with vintage 30's will be pretty chunky.

 

[Guitarist]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

SIDENOTE: Mrid...when'd you turn 21?? CHEERS! :beerchug:

 

[mrid]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

SIDENOTE: Mrid...when'd you turn 21?? CHEERS! :beerchug:

Nov 22

 

[strat_master]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

ok im not going to argue with you. Im under enough stress with finals around the corner, no point in getting into an internet debate over something stupid. I have enough crap on my plate than to deal with someone i don't actually know. What i meant if you did not get it was simply to be a little more polite about correcting someone.

 

[mrid]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

ok im not going to argue with you. Im under enough stress with finals around the corner, no point in getting into an internet debate over something stupid. I have enough crap on my plate than to deal with someone i don't actually know. What i meant if you did not get it was simply to be a little more polite about correcting someone.

If you think I'm impolite, don't even think about posting over at HC...better yet, avoid the real world all together. :laugh2:

P.S: Thanks for the little tidbit of information about your personal life there, chief...I was wondering why my day didn't feel complete until now. :laugh2:

 

[Rainmaker]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

Ok now it's time for me to say time to play nice.

 

[El Dorado]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

If you're considering a Mesa Single Rectifier, also look at the Rectoverb series. Extremely versatile amp, and it has onboard reverb as well.

+1

 

[Rainmaker]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

So how does the ENGL Screamer fit into this? (Hijack duh.)

:sorry:

 

[JeffB]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

OK, i get the i get the point "Chief". Just **** off, ok, plain and simple. To hell with this ****, people like you make me sick, i really hope your pompus ******* attitude catches up one day, and then just maybe if there is a god in this world it will hit you like a ton of brick and hopefully you will simply stop breathing. So understand this you rotten son of a bitch, it quite obiovus i don't like you and im sure you feel the same way, and that is perfectly fine, but i just wanted to put this wide in the field i would love to see you burn in hell your disguisting mother ****er .

:saeek:

Oh my!

 

[JeffB]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

As for the question asked originally...

Disclaimer: I am definitely a Marshall man first and foremost. However I also love nearly every Mesa I've played and I've been jonesing for that Lonestar.

BUT...

I finally got up the nerve to play the rectifiers (thinking that if I played it, I'd not have enough self-control, and would sell a family member into slavery to buy it )

This particular store had a few different rectifier heads set up with 6l6s and El-34's running through boogie cabs and there's something about them I just don't like....kind of a grainy/floppy/buzzy high end (and as much as I like El-34s the 6L6s sounded better to me). I did tweak it a bit, and never could eliminate that sound.

The older boogies I'm more familiar with (MKII-IV, studio 22, 50 cal), are definitely smoother and tighter on the top end, and I prefer their sound.

The good thing is, now my family is safe

So I would def go with the DSL, when compared to the rectifiers I've played regardless of my preference for Marshall. Much tighter sounding amp and can do a decent scooped mids thing if thats what you are looking for.

 

[Rich_T]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

OK, i get the i get the point "Chief". Just **** off, ok, plain and simple. To hell with this ****, people like you make me sick, i really hope your pompus ******* attitude catches up one day, and then just maybe if there is a god in this world it will hit you like a ton of brick and hopefully you will simply stop breathing. So understand this you rotten son of a bitch, it quite obiovus i don't like you and im sure you feel the same way, and that is perfectly fine, but i just wanted to put this wide in the field i would love to see you burn in hell your disguisting mother ****er .

err... ok then. chill out mate, its just the internet.


Back on topic...

I've got the DSL 401 combo, and it sounds considerably chunkier than my mates JCM 800 half stack, the DSL head is even chunkier with the deep switch engaged, its a really top amp. Over here in Britain, its also about 1/3 of the price of a single rectifier, so as far as i am concerened there is no competition.

Built like the proverbial brick outhouse, sounds absolutley killer, and some of the best cleans ever found on a marshall. I would personally go for the DSL.

 

[strat_master]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

sorry guys i guess i kind of over reacted, my apologies. MRID, i really did not intended bucking heads or anything, and in truth i really won't hold a grudge against you, so i guess i will be the bigger man and say sorry man, i guess i really over reacted.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Marshall DSL 50 VS Mesa Single Rectifier

No matter which one you choose, I'd opt for the 50W, so you get the power tubes lit up and adding some growl. My suggestion would be to spend a Saturday at a few music stores, plugging into both of those amps, and explain to the salesman that you can't buy one unless you hear it at stage volume. Bring your own guitar....it makes them think you're more serious. By the end of the day, you'll see which one you'll want to use for the next several years.

Then, after properly stroking those salesman, find the amp used for roughly half the cost. Use the money you save by having Svetlana or Tesla JJ power tubes and GT12AX7C's put in it. It'll likely sound better than a brand new one and you won't be hit by Marshall or Mesa's whopping retail price.