Marshall gurus give me some guidance
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LLL
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Clips or it didn't happen. :naughty:
What are you afraid of? Whip up a clip so the whole forum can hear!
Clips or it didn't happen. :naughty:
What are you afraid of? Whip up a clip so the whole forum can hear!
Edgecrusher
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Here's an idea if you don't feel comfortable recording yourself and posting your clips on this forum:
Learn "Wild Thing" by the Troggs or "Louie Louie" by the Kingsmen.
They're super easy and practically impossible to screw up (the ol' I, IV, V chord trinity).
You could strum through them and then we can hear how the amp sounds. :bigthumb:
Here's an idea if you don't feel comfortable recording yourself and posting your clips on this forum:
Learn "Wild Thing" by the Troggs or "Louie Louie" by the Kingsmen.
They're super easy and practically impossible to screw up (the ol' I, IV, V chord trinity).
You could strum through them and then we can hear how the amp sounds. :bigthumb:
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80's_Metal
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Don't sweat it consider the source. I could make this personal but it isn't worth it.
Don't sweat it consider the source. I could make this personal but it isn't worth it.
ItsaBass
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FWIW, 99% (and maybe more) of everyone who covers "Louie Louie" plays the wrong chords. And on top of that, many – if not most – bands also play the wrong rhythm during the verses. If someone actually plays the song with the right chords and rhythms, I am truly impressed by their musicianship. Far moreso than someone who shreds someone else's solo note for note or some such ****.
FWIW, 99% (and maybe more) of everyone who covers "Louie Louie" plays the wrong chords. And on top of that, many – if not most – bands also play the wrong rhythm during the verses. If someone actually plays the song with the right chords and rhythms, I am truly impressed by their musicianship. Far moreso than someone who shreds someone else's solo note for note or some such ****.
Securb
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So now you are saying I can't even play Louie, Louie? #&%$
So now you are saying I can't even play Louie, Louie? #&%$
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Marshall gurus give me some guidance
Indeed, though I did not say "wrong" period. Just the wrong chords, meaning if you're comparing them to the original (or the Kingsmen's version, which is what most all those people actually covered). I'm not saying those versions don't deserve to exist, just that they change the chords.
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I'm also only talking about guitar players, because that's what the discussion is about. Keyboard players and horn players tend to get it right more often...but keyboard's and horns are nowhere near as common as guitars in cover versions.
It's been covered and performed by way more than 1,600 artists. Those 1,600 make up an extremely small fraction of everyone who's ever done it. Those are just known published covers. I would hope published artists would be more likely to catch the nuances of the original, though that isn't necessarily the case.
I have never seen anyone play it with the same chords as the original (or Kingsmen) - not one guitar player I've actually seen play it in person. "Power chord" versions get the closest, because they don't contain a glaringly wrong chord. But every single time I've seen anyone who plays full chords on it, they change the chords from the original, which to my ear changes the feel of the song significantly by either taking away or screwing with it's largest distinctive harmonic element.
It isn't that people are incapable of playing it with the original chords. It's no harder than playing it "wrong," technically speaking. It's just that often when we think something is super easy, we really don't bother to pay it enough detailed attention learn it properly.
Indeed, though I did not say "wrong" period. Just the wrong chords, meaning if you're comparing them to the original (or the Kingsmen's version, which is what most all those people actually covered). I'm not saying those versions don't deserve to exist, just that they change the chords.
most
I'm also only talking about guitar players, because that's what the discussion is about. Keyboard players and horn players tend to get it right more often...but keyboard's and horns are nowhere near as common as guitars in cover versions.
It's been covered and performed by way more than 1,600 artists. Those 1,600 make up an extremely small fraction of everyone who's ever done it. Those are just known published covers. I would hope published artists would be more likely to catch the nuances of the original, though that isn't necessarily the case.
I have never seen anyone play it with the same chords as the original (or Kingsmen) - not one guitar player I've actually seen play it in person. "Power chord" versions get the closest, because they don't contain a glaringly wrong chord. But every single time I've seen anyone who plays full chords on it, they change the chords from the original, which to my ear changes the feel of the song significantly by either taking away or screwing with it's largest distinctive harmonic element.
It isn't that people are incapable of playing it with the original chords. It's no harder than playing it "wrong," technically speaking. It's just that often when we think something is super easy, we really don't bother to pay it enough detailed attention learn it properly.
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Edgecrusher
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I thought he asked for the chords.. not the progression... why be obtuse?
I thought he asked for the chords.. not the progression... why be obtuse?
Securb
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I am not hearing anything cryptic here. It is I-IV-V-IV, how have people been playing this or Wild Thing wrong?
I am not hearing anything cryptic here. It is I-IV-V-IV, how have people been playing this or Wild Thing wrong?
Edgecrusher
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I sat down and strummed to that and.... it beats me. I dont hear anything weird either.
I sat down and strummed to that and.... it beats me. I dont hear anything weird either.
Securb
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Imposing a I-IV-V is simple because it is 3 chords is moronic. Miles Davis' So What is two dorian chords that modulate a full step for texture and it is a masterpiece. Any "real" musician know it is not about the notes you play but what you do with the space between them. But I digress, lets watch a master play the "easy and practically impossible to screw up" Wild Thing.
Imposing a I-IV-V is simple because it is 3 chords is moronic. Miles Davis' So What is two dorian chords that modulate a full step for texture and it is a masterpiece. Any "real" musician know it is not about the notes you play but what you do with the space between them. But I digress, lets watch a master play the "easy and practically impossible to screw up" Wild Thing.
LLL
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Just noticed this - if you don't mind me asking, why are you posting your clips on another forum but never post them here?
Just noticed this - if you don't mind me asking, why are you posting your clips on another forum but never post them here?
LLL
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Maybe it's a tricky music theory trap.
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Maybe it's a tricky music theory trap.
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