Mesa V-Twin vs. Twin Tube Mayhem

[xxxplorer]

Re: Mesa V-Twin vs. Twin Tube Mayhem

I gotta say... I wouldn't wanna have any of those tones. The Second part was a lil tighter and better than first... but not by much. The end was the best... but still not super great... maybe my view of a metal tone is horrible, but I didn't really dig most of those tones.

Now to be fair, I really dig the TT classic. I have played it and really thought it was something different... so I am not dogging the Duncan pedals... I'm even doggin the V-twin.

 

[frankfalbo]

Re: Mesa V-Twin vs. Twin Tube Mayhem

The key here is that this is just one tone, one setting, through a JCM800. It's not representative of a bedroom level solid state amp, or a tube power amp, etc. Also there's no "doctoring" of the sound. It's just two mics, one Groove Tubes condenser and one craptacular Audio Technica Midnight Blues 2000, panned about 40%. No effects, no "post".

None of this fodder means the Mayhem is more or less "right" for you, just indicative of something that happened in our sound room last week. I didn't start the thread as a sales pitch or marketing spin. Its funny, the artist also dug the last sound the best (twin tube blue) and that's what he took with him that day. Maybe that's because he already uses a Dual Rectifier on most stuff, and the Twin Tube Blue provided another sonic texture, one that he isn't getting from the Rectos. It's really a very traditional, fendery Buddy Guy/SRV overdrive, but with the gain cranked on the lead channel, and using Blackouts, its capable of doing some serious damage in its own right.

 

[xxxplorer]

Re: Mesa V-Twin vs. Twin Tube Mayhem

Vedy good...
As I said, I wouldn't like either of the first two as my gain sound... too mushy. The last was pretty ok though. I woulda cranked it through the high input and backed the gain on the preamp down... that woulda been brutal.

But I realize for comparisons you needed a blank canvas so to speak!

I will go snag a TTB and see what I can do with it!

 

[J Moose]

Re: Mesa V-Twin vs. Twin Tube Mayhem

That is pretty interesting...

Even with the uber metal "chugga-chugga" thing the V-twin still sounds way tighter & meanier... more focused. Especially in the bottom & mids where I can hear that low-mid flub/clipping in the TTM.

Hell, looking at the waveform you can even SEE the differences... the Vtwin is more compact where the TTM has those big spikes on the palm mutes. Its spikier compared to the "bulk" of the tone...

I'm surprised by the TTblue though...

 

[jmh151]

Re: Mesa V-Twin vs. Twin Tube Mayhem

The clip of the Blue- is that being used to boost the lead channel of an amp, or is that the pedal on it's own?

 

[frankfalbo]

Re: Mesa V-Twin vs. Twin Tube Mayhem

All the clips are real time, exactly the same setup. The only "edits" were to cut away dead air time switching between the units. So if you listen to the clean fumbling at the beginning, that's the amp tone. The TT Blue is just added to that.

It sounds extra gainy because its the Blackouts 7-strings. If I left all the settings the same and went to a Strat in the #4 position, it would clean up and be more articulate, whereas the Mayhem and V-Twin would still be "chuga-chuga". Also it is a Marshall JCM 800, so although I wasn't using the pedals to boost the front end, there's always a little "crackle" on those Marshalls. A Fender or solid state combo would probably do more to highlight the differences between the three pedals.

 

[jmh151]

Re: Mesa V-Twin vs. Twin Tube Mayhem

I'm just wondering why the Blue seemed to have a bigger tone

 

[Filipe Marquez]

Re: Mesa V-Twin vs. Twin Tube Mayhem

the twin tube blue is definately the best. the TTM sounds too fuzzy and dark, but i have to say the v-twin is not much better. it's A LITTLE more tight, less fuzzy and less dark, but i wouldn't buy it either.

i wonder how the power grid sounds though, in a unedited clip like that. could you post a an unedited clip of the PG frank? with the 7 string? :scratchch i have a seven and just came here after years cause i was thinking of buying the TTM, hehe.

 

[Koreth]

Re: Mesa V-Twin vs. Twin Tube Mayhem

The two do sound rather similar, IMO. The V-Twin seems to be tighter in the low end, and have a bit more sizzle on top. The Mayhem has more of a looser bass that seems to swel into a a kinda *boom* just after the attack. The bass doesn't dominate the sound, but it is up front, and the sizzle on top is more subtle - it seems to sit behind the bass.

I gotta say, I do like the sound of that TT Blue.