NAD: Ace in the hole! Mesa Stiletto Ace 2x12

[Ascension]

V30 + G12t-75 is definitely a tried and true recipe for success.



I'm genuinely curious, why do you take this position? UK vs USA made speakers.

I'm not a big fan of the Vin 30's in a open back cab but am a huge fan of them in the right closed back cab. The Celestion Vin 30's most use now are made in China not England. Few will run a real Britt Vin 30 outside of Mesa because of the cost. They are completely different sounding speakers to my ear and many of us wonder if Mesa actually specs them slightly differently. The real Vin 30's in a well designed closed back cab are really hard to beat in particular for a modern modded Marshall voiced amp.
I'm running a mix of speakers in my rigs . Have a mid 90's 75 in my open back Blackstar 1/12 at my Church( but may swap it for a WGS ET 65 at some point) , A 90 in my Boogie widebody 1/12, real Vin 30's in my PRS 2/12 deep closed back cab and WGS's in both my Zinky Blue Velvet ( Retro 30) and Mesa Subway Rocket ( ET 10) combos.
I would seriously consider leaving the stock Vin 30's in that Boogie because of what those are.

 

[devastone]

The Wizard and Governor are both great speakers and definitely not a downgrade, but not sure they would be that much change from the Mesa V30s currently in there. They are both variants on the V30 theme, the Wizard has a little more sizzle on top, but they are very similar. I've used the Man O' War too, another great speaker, more in the vein of the Celestion Classic Lead series IIRC.

 

[misterwhizzy]

The Wizard and Governor are both great speakers and definitely not a downgrade, but not sure they would be that much change from the Mesa V30s currently in there. They are both variants on the V30 theme.

I disagree, and I believe Eminence disagrees as well. From what I understand, the Wizard is their take on the G12H-30. For what it's worth, I think I like my Governor better than I like my V30s, but I like my Greenbacks better than any of them.

 

[Aceman]

Slightly off topic;

What would be a good Greenback 25 style replacement?

 

[jeremy]

why not a greenback? or do you want more power handling?

 

[GuitarStv]

The Eminence Private Jack was supposed to be a higher wattage greenback replacement.

 

[misterwhizzy]

why not a greenback? or do you want more power handling?

In that case, the answer is multiple 25-Watt Greenbacks.

 

[Demanic]

Am I the only one who finds that the Greenback gets ratty when fed heavy distortion? Sure, for ACDC or Van Halen it's fine. Not so much for Exodus or Overkill.

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[misterwhizzy]

Am I the only one who finds that the Greenback gets ratty when fed heavy distortion? Sure, for ACDC or Van Halen it's fine. Not so much for Exodus or Overkill.

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Just thick and crunchy to my ears.

 

[jeremy]

while i love greenbacks, i agree that there are better choices for heavy modern tones

 

[Demanic]

I would love a Greenback for Jazz, Funk or Country.

 

[jeremy]

actually i like greenbacks for rock and blues. for jazz, funk, or country id want something cleaner.

 

[GuitarStv]

while i love greenbacks, i agree that there are better choices for heavy modern tones

Ditching the heavy modern tones is usually a better choice than ditching the greenback.

 

[devastone]

I disagree, and I believe Eminence disagrees as well. From what I understand, the Wizard is their take on the G12H-30. For what it's worth, I think I like my Governor better than I like my V30s, but I like my Greenbacks better than any of them.

Ah, sorry about that, I was thinking both were variations on the V30, thank you for the correction.

I doubt Eminence would say they were downgrades though.

 

[Securb]

Ditching the heavy modern tones is usually a better choice than ditching the greenback.

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[misterwhizzy]

Ah, sorry about that, I was thinking both were variations on the V30, thank you for the correction.

I doubt Eminence would say they were downgrades though.

Just that they would disagree that the Governor was based on the Vintage 30.

 

[Demanic]

Ditching the heavy modern tones is usually a better choice than ditching the greenback.

Maybe for someone who can't handle them.

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[jeremy]

horses for courses, greenbacks are great but theres plenty of other great speakers out there. i love a greenback for some amps i have but other amps are better suited to a different speaker

 

[devastone]

Just that they would disagree that the Governor was based on the Vintage 30.

Yes, my memory could be flawed. I was thinking one of those (other than the Legend V-type) was similar to the V30 but smoother. I may be off here, if so, sorry. FWIW, I prefer either of the Eminence speakers over a V30, but it's been a long time since I've used any of the 3. Which Redcoat is the "V30-ish" one?

 

[misterwhizzy]

Yes, my memory could be flawed. I was thinking one of those (other than the Legend V-type) was similar to the V30 but smoother. I may be off here, if so, sorry. FWIW, I prefer either of the Eminence speakers over a V30, but it's been a long time since I've used any of the 3. Which Redcoat is the "V30-ish" one?

Governor. Definitely Governor.