Mesa vs Peavy
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Schecter006Elite
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Re: Mesa vs Peavy
I verymuch dislike the tone of that amp. I listen to some clips with a mesa and a 5150 and I like the mesa ones more. The 5150 seems to sound like it lacks depth. I agree it would be awesome to fast playing metal because its so tight but the mesa had a very rich tone and crunch that I thought sounded way better and still kept up just the same.
Bump tho, keep the opinions coming please!
I verymuch dislike the tone of that amp. I listen to some clips with a mesa and a 5150 and I like the mesa ones more. The 5150 seems to sound like it lacks depth. I agree it would be awesome to fast playing metal because its so tight but the mesa had a very rich tone and crunch that I thought sounded way better and still kept up just the same.
Bump tho, keep the opinions coming please!
Schecter006Elite
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Re: Mesa vs Peavy
The thing is, i dont envy anyones tone really. Not that I dislike their tone, I just dont envy it. The only person whose tone makes me go "goodamn I want that brutal sound" would be Greg Anderson. He is in many bands all whom I love their tone. 2 The of his bands I would like to model an idea for you guys would be Goatsnake and War Horse. Check here-
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=80180865
Thats Warhorse and the tone from the song Doomsbride is probably the only tone I'd say I envy. It really is crushing. I know he uses SunnO))) Cabs (which I plan to also get) but I dont know what head he uses. Tell me what you think now!
The thing is, i dont envy anyones tone really. Not that I dislike their tone, I just dont envy it. The only person whose tone makes me go "goodamn I want that brutal sound" would be Greg Anderson. He is in many bands all whom I love their tone. 2 The of his bands I would like to model an idea for you guys would be Goatsnake and War Horse. Check here-
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=80180865
Thats Warhorse and the tone from the song Doomsbride is probably the only tone I'd say I envy. It really is crushing. I know he uses SunnO))) Cabs (which I plan to also get) but I dont know what head he uses. Tell me what you think now!
Zerberus
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sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: Mesa vs Peavy
In other news, the poll is split completely down the middle.
Dude, just go play both amps. You'll like one more than the other for sure, so buy that one. Any GC will have both on hand.
In other news, the poll is split completely down the middle.
Dude, just go play both amps. You'll like one more than the other for sure, so buy that one. Any GC will have both on hand.
Schecter006Elite
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Re: Mesa vs Peavy
No, the GC I work at Doesnt have any Mesa's and GC in general does not carry Peavy AT ALL. They might get used ones in, but we dont carry em.
No, the GC I work at Doesnt have any Mesa's and GC in general does not carry Peavy AT ALL. They might get used ones in, but we dont carry em.
sosomething
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Re: Mesa vs Peavy
Your GC doesn't have any Mesas??????
GC is a HUGE Mesa dealer. That's insane. You guys just don't stock them?
Your GC doesn't have any Mesas??????
GC is a HUGE Mesa dealer. That's insane. You guys just don't stock them?
some_dude
Raging BB Gunologist
Re: Mesa vs Peavy
No, only certain GCs are. If there's another another store that sells them Mesa won't give GC a dealership.
No, only certain GCs are. If there's another another store that sells them Mesa won't give GC a dealership.
sosomething
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Re: Mesa vs Peavy
Then the obvious answer here is for our thread-starter to go to the nearby Mesa dealer and actually play through one.
Then the obvious answer here is for our thread-starter to go to the nearby Mesa dealer and actually play through one.
Schecter006Elite
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Re: Mesa vs Peavy
Well I live in atlantic city NJ and were not really a rich area (not that were all poor) so most people would rather save money and get just about the same thing with pedals an such.
Well I live in atlantic city NJ and were not really a rich area (not that were all poor) so most people would rather save money and get just about the same thing with pedals an such.
metal
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dude a rectumfrier is a joke to an uberschall man, I use to have a rectifier it sounded awesome until i heard the uberschall at a local metal gig, dude ive had both , the recto and the 5150, the 5150 was a piece of ****, or maybe i got a bad one or something but it sounded like ****! also the stillettos sound cool!
dude a rectumfrier is a joke to an uberschall man, I use to have a rectifier it sounded awesome until i heard the uberschall at a local metal gig, dude ive had both , the recto and the 5150, the 5150 was a piece of ****, or maybe i got a bad one or something but it sounded like ****! also the stillettos sound cool!
Schecter006Elite
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Re: Mesa vs Peavy
I just dont dig the tone an ubershall has. Its like a JCM800 on steriods, I dont like that too much. It was very crunchy yes, but I want chrushing. Tone so heavy it floors you.
I just dont dig the tone an ubershall has. Its like a JCM800 on steriods, I dont like that too much. It was very crunchy yes, but I want chrushing. Tone so heavy it floors you.
Virtual Kevorkian
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Re: Mesa vs Peavy
If you want more of a crushing, brutal, loose, not so defined, not so cutting tone, then the Recto is what you want.
Honestly, just go play one and see what you like/dislike about it, and report back to us.
What is it you don't like exactly about the Über? It sounds more like a refined, juicy, liquidy, creamy, high end 5150 to me - not so much 900 there.
Metal - if you like the Überschall but didn't like your 5150, you were playing it through the wrong speakers, or it was ****ed. Furthermore, if you liked a Stiletto over a 5150... you should be shot in the face. :laugh2:
If you want more of a crushing, brutal, loose, not so defined, not so cutting tone, then the Recto is what you want.
Honestly, just go play one and see what you like/dislike about it, and report back to us.
What is it you don't like exactly about the Über? It sounds more like a refined, juicy, liquidy, creamy, high end 5150 to me - not so much 900 there.
Metal - if you like the Überschall but didn't like your 5150, you were playing it through the wrong speakers, or it was ****ed. Furthermore, if you liked a Stiletto over a 5150... you should be shot in the face. :laugh2:
metal
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Re: Mesa vs Peavy
the 5150 had an undefined, fizzy, nasty tone, maybe it was ****ed up or something, man the stiletto sounds pretty kickass!
the 5150 had an undefined, fizzy, nasty tone, maybe it was ****ed up or something, man the stiletto sounds pretty kickass!
anewdefguitarist
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if you want that warhorse sound from the myspace page, scrape i think it was called??? M-E-S-A !! that sound fuking screams mesa dude!! if thats what you're into id say mesa. i will agree with the people who've said you just need to try it. not to give up on you or anything...and don't listen to anyone but YOURSELF!! don't be an ass and be in a box about it, but dont listen to others about it. if you hate the marshall sound, but love those new B-52's..... lol, thought i'd make everyone perk up a bit...everyone awake now? from what i can say about the 6505 and the mesa i am much more happy with mesa. i used to be in a 3 piece (we got a rythm now) but he uses solid state and i use a recto...he has fizzle i have warmth, depth, burtality, and creamy-ness (in my pants) when i play...anyway off subject, from what i can say about the 6505 is that i think its best suited if you have a rythm guy underneath laying out some body for your leads....if you're the only guitarist, mesa deffinately. its fat, thick, and raunchy/chunky as hell. powerchords sound POWERFULL and leads can melt your face...plus you have the versatility of 3 channels (if u go dual or triple recto) theres my 2 cents: listen with your OWN ears and (for the most part in terms of sound) mesa is thicker than peaveys sound....good luck
if you want that warhorse sound from the myspace page, scrape i think it was called??? M-E-S-A !! that sound fuking screams mesa dude!! if thats what you're into id say mesa. i will agree with the people who've said you just need to try it. not to give up on you or anything...and don't listen to anyone but YOURSELF!! don't be an ass and be in a box about it, but dont listen to others about it. if you hate the marshall sound, but love those new B-52's..... lol, thought i'd make everyone perk up a bit...everyone awake now? from what i can say about the 6505 and the mesa i am much more happy with mesa. i used to be in a 3 piece (we got a rythm now) but he uses solid state and i use a recto...he has fizzle i have warmth, depth, burtality, and creamy-ness (in my pants) when i play...anyway off subject, from what i can say about the 6505 is that i think its best suited if you have a rythm guy underneath laying out some body for your leads....if you're the only guitarist, mesa deffinately. its fat, thick, and raunchy/chunky as hell. powerchords sound POWERFULL and leads can melt your face...plus you have the versatility of 3 channels (if u go dual or triple recto) theres my 2 cents: listen with your OWN ears and (for the most part in terms of sound) mesa is thicker than peaveys sound....good luck
Schecter006Elite
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Re: Mesa vs Peavy
Thanks dudes!
Thanks dudes!
That90'sGuy
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Re: Mesa vs Peavy
Schecter, I think the best amp for you is the Dual Rectifier. Like you said earlier, you want a loose lowend (that's key right there since the 5150 is a pretty tight amp). Dual Rectifiers can be pretty brutal amps and your friends were recommending them before you even asked here so maybe one of your friends can even help you dial it in if you decide to get one.
Schecter, I think the best amp for you is the Dual Rectifier. Like you said earlier, you want a loose lowend (that's key right there since the 5150 is a pretty tight amp). Dual Rectifiers can be pretty brutal amps and your friends were recommending them before you even asked here so maybe one of your friends can even help you dial it in if you decide to get one.
noisenet
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Re: Mesa vs Peavy
Wow, that is a brutal tone. Very cool.
That being said, I used to own a 5150 (first edition) and used to get a very similar tone from it (albeit not so drop tuned, but a half step down like you). I was in the market for a Rectifier a few years ago, until I played one. Dude, I was able to get a much more satisfying crunch out of the 5150, so I stayed with it. One key, though, is to also get two 4x12 cabs. The 5150 cabs also sound killer. If I hadn't had my entire rig stolen in 2001, which included the 5150, the two cabs, a Laney GH-100L (also badass) a bunch of rack gear, guitars, a lot of ****, I would still be using the 5150, I'm sure. I've seen people on here posting that the 5150 doesn't have that big low end you're looking for. Dude, I was getting so much low end I had to back the bass knob down to 6. Seriously! The Key is the resonance knob. Dial in whatever low end you like, it's right there.
Give the 5150 a try man, and a bonus is that with the $$$ you'll save, you can also snag a couple of 4x12's. But do yourself a favor, go with the first 5150's, the 5150 II didn't sound as big, IMHO. Look on eBay. Also, among the fist issues, there were the "script logo" and the "Block" logo - on the right of the faceplate, next to the power and standby switches, there will either be an Eddie Van Signature, or a block lettering "EVH" - go with the signature, not the block. I dunno what they changed, but something is different with the Block ones and they don't sound as good.
Wow, that is a brutal tone. Very cool.
That being said, I used to own a 5150 (first edition) and used to get a very similar tone from it (albeit not so drop tuned, but a half step down like you). I was in the market for a Rectifier a few years ago, until I played one. Dude, I was able to get a much more satisfying crunch out of the 5150, so I stayed with it. One key, though, is to also get two 4x12 cabs. The 5150 cabs also sound killer. If I hadn't had my entire rig stolen in 2001, which included the 5150, the two cabs, a Laney GH-100L (also badass) a bunch of rack gear, guitars, a lot of ****, I would still be using the 5150, I'm sure. I've seen people on here posting that the 5150 doesn't have that big low end you're looking for. Dude, I was getting so much low end I had to back the bass knob down to 6. Seriously! The Key is the resonance knob. Dial in whatever low end you like, it's right there.
Give the 5150 a try man, and a bonus is that with the $$$ you'll save, you can also snag a couple of 4x12's. But do yourself a favor, go with the first 5150's, the 5150 II didn't sound as big, IMHO. Look on eBay. Also, among the fist issues, there were the "script logo" and the "Block" logo - on the right of the faceplate, next to the power and standby switches, there will either be an Eddie Van Signature, or a block lettering "EVH" - go with the signature, not the block. I dunno what they changed, but something is different with the Block ones and they don't sound as good.
