METAL ONLY! JB or distortion or 81

METAL ONLY! JB or distortion or 81

  • JB

    Votes: 34 23.3%
  • DD

    Votes: 54 37.0%
  • EMG 81

    Votes: 58 39.7%

  • Total voters
    146

SABOTAGE

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of these three which is just simply the best for playin metal?
bands like black label society, ozzy with zakk, slayer, pantera,metallica(older stuff of course!), symphony X and the like?
cleans are not a issue just sheer power,clarity, and maximum impact
 
Re: METAL ONLY! JB or distortion or 81

Do you like overly brightness and sterile tone, but want a pick up with insane output? Get an EMG81

A JB might be way too mellow for your taste

A DD is a great passive alternative for an EMG81, but unlike the EMG81 it actually depends on what kind of axe you're going to put it in (so please tell us). I think it'll be just what you're looking for unless you've got a bright guitar

Good luck to ya!
 
Re: METAL ONLY! JB or distortion or 81

hahahaha

all the bands you mentioned minus pantera uses EMGs so it looks like you've already got it figured out :D
 
Re: METAL ONLY! JB or distortion or 81

EMG should be your first choice.
If you wanna a SD very bad then go for the Distortion.
 
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\m/(00)\m/ said:
hahahaha

all the bands you mentioned minus pantera uses EMGs so it looks like you've already got it figured out :D

No way! He said old Metallica and they swore by DDs back then :smoker:
Dimebag uses Bill Lawrences and that guy from Symphony X (keep forgetting his name) uses the X2N. So it's kinda 3 against 3 :newangel:
 
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Neeradj said:
No way! He said old Metallica and they swore by DDs back then :smoker:
Dimebag uses Bill Lawrences and that guy from Symphony X (keep forgetting his name) uses the X2N. So it's kinda 3 against 3 :newangel:

on what discs did metaliica use a DD?
btw the guys name is MICHEAL ROMEO and he is a killer player!
like a heavy metal yngwie malmsteen waaaayy better tone than YJM gets from his strats
I thought dime used these?
sh-13.jpg
 
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Neeradj said:
No way! He said old Metallica and they swore by DDs back then :smoker:
Dimebag uses Bill Lawrences and that guy from Symphony X (keep forgetting his name) uses the X2N. So it's kinda 3 against 3 :newangel:

on kill em all, kirk used a DD in his V and james used an invader in his white v.
on ride the lightning, they used the same gear but wqhile on the RTL tour they started using EMGs.
on master of puppets when they fll started using mesa boogies, they mixed the EMG's with the other stuff and since then they've been using emgs in mopst of their guitars.

dime uses the dime model :D

i have video of michael romeo using 2 emg 81's.
and ofc ourse zakk uses emgs.

:)
 
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\m/(00)\m/ said:
on kill em all, kirk used a DD in his V and james used an invader in his white v.
on ride the lightning, they used the same gear but wqhile on the RTL tour they started using EMGs.
on master of puppets when they fll started using mesa boogies, they mixed the EMG's with the other stuff and since then they've been using emgs in mopst of their guitars.

dime uses the dime model :D

i have video of michael romeo using 2 emg 81's.
and ofc ourse zakk uses emgs.

:)


why do some say the EMG's are sterile? i dont hear that from the guys that do use them?
like zakk who uses them exclusively HE DOES NOT HAVE a STERILE TONE at all!:rolleyes:
 
Re: METAL ONLY! JB or distortion or 81

I think the sterile thing with EMGs is very subjective. Those who prefer the tone of passive pups find it sterile, those who like both equally (like myself) do not. Neither is wrong or right.

I voted EMG 81, but only with the 18v mod.
 
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\m/(00)\m/ said:
on kill em all, kirk used a DD in his V and james used an invader in his white v.
on ride the lightning, they used the same gear but wqhile on the RTL tour they started using EMGs.
on master of puppets when they fll started using mesa boogies, they mixed the EMG's with the other stuff and since then they've been using emgs in mopst of their guitars.

dime uses the dime model :D

i have video of michael romeo using 2 emg 81's.
and ofc ourse zakk uses emgs.

:)

Yeah Michael Romeo, no really he's back to the X2N again. The MOP tone was DD all the way for sure, I believe Kirk really started getting into EMG during the Justice album and late MOP tours, but not the MOP album.

I think Zakk does sound sterile on some major downtuned Black Label albums, but usually plugging into his SD-1 and wah will color the tone so much you won't be able to tell. From personal experience I've tried and had the EMG81 in several guitars and it always sounded the same.

A forumbro once told me the SH-13 and Bill Lawrence L500XL were basically the same pick ups, Dime used a more over the top BL L500XL (forgot the name) but when Bill Lawrence stopped making those he went to Duncan I believe.

JB From Hell is right about purists complaining about sterile tone, I just want to flavour my own tone with my fingers, amp gain and the very little fx I use. And not have my sound flavoured for me :newangel:
 
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JB_From_Hell said:
I think the sterile thing with EMGs is very subjective. Those who prefer the tone of passive pups find it sterile, those who like both equally (like myself) do not. Neither is wrong or right.

I voted EMG 81, but only with the 18v mod.
JB from hell as you may know right now i am using a JB with a large ceramic magnet and i think this is now a DD??? whatever the pup is furious sounding
but i am getting the EMG 81 itch since i heard it is even more ferocious and tighter for metal
:saeek:
 
Re: METAL ONLY! JB or distortion or 81

I don't find EMGs to sound sterile...they just sound a little different. For straight up thrash/speed/death metal it's hard to beat them IMO even though I'm more of a passive fan.

For 80's metal I'd take passives instead.
 
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I've had a guitar loaded with two 81s on hand for the last 7 years, and (whichever axe they're in) it always gets lots of playing time. I'm actually selling one of them and trying out the 85. I've heard lots of good stuff about it as a bridge pup. Definitely wire up EMGs to run on 18v. Its such a drastic improvement, I can't believe EMG doesn't use this as the standard.

My name on here was inspired by sticking a ceramic mag in my JB. I have nothing but good things to say about it. It's a totally bitchin', rip-your-head-off pup.

All in all, I love the 81, the JB & Invader equally, all for different reasons. If I was suddenly stuck using only one of them, I could be satisfied whichever way. One thing I will say about actives is that they're less susceptable to noise inflicting devices (computer monitors, lights, etc...).
 
Re: METAL ONLY! JB or distortion or 81

Well, you know what I'm going to say. Perhaps I should call into light my Church of the Distortion thread.
 
Re: METAL ONLY! JB or distortion or 81

If you are looking for shredding metal madness and don't care about cleans go with the active EMGs. Most of the modern day metal bands use em in their axes.
 
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SABOTAGE said:
bands like black label society, ozzy with zakk, slayer, pantera,metallica(older stuff of course!), symphony X and the like?


i play all the same stuff (minus the symphony x) and the DD works perfectly for me. its my favorite pickup.
 
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DD. The 81 has reduced mids.
 
Re: METAL ONLY! JB or distortion or 81

SABOTAGE said:
JB from hell as you may know right now i am using a JB with a large ceramic magnet and i think this is now a DD??? whatever the pup is furious sounding
but i am getting the EMG 81 itch since i heard it is even more ferocious and tighter for metal
:saeek:

Hej SABOTAGE... are you willing to trade or sell the JB ceramic magnet?
PM ME
 
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\m/(00)\m/ said:
on kill em all, kirk used a DD in his V and james used an invader in his white v.
on ride the lightning, they used the same gear but wqhile on the RTL tour they started using EMGs.
on master of puppets when they fll started using mesa boogies, they mixed the EMG's with the other stuff and since then they've been using emgs in mopst of their guitars.


nope. on kill em all, both dudes used stock pickups. on ride the lightning, james put an invader in his white v, and kirk (supposedly, i havent seen any absolute proof) had 2 DD's in one of his gibson v's. they started using EMGs (not in all guitars) during the ride the lightning tour. then on puppets, james mostly used a stock gibson '84 explorer, and i think it was his jackson kv that had EMGs in it. they both used the mk IIc+ for pretty much all of that album, re-wired as a pre-amp with a marshall power amp. then on justice they switched pretty much entirely to EMG's, and have been using mostly them since.
 
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