Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

[Darth Nihilus]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

Don't treat the woods on an electric guitar the same way you would an acoustic. The wood won't make any bit of difference to your tone. Don't buy into the BS. Your bridge and nut will play a much bigger role on your tone than the wood so don't worry. The Duncan Distortion will give you just the right amount of power and cut unless you have a Floyd Rose type bridge which can be a bit thin and trebly in which case the Invader will cover you much better

 

[Darth Nihilus]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

Interesting. Admittedly I have not gone through the entire video, but at around 19:30 he babbles something about the two anchor points (bridge and nut) being the only factors that govern tone, completely ignoring the influence that the density of the wood they're mounted on has. I'm also seeing a string of rebuttal videos between him and some others. Should be an interesting headache.

Math must consider variables, and nearly 20 minutes into it, he has not referenced that key variable.

He does cover all of that, you just have to watch the whole video

 

[Darth Nihilus]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

I love my Invader set. It's a one trick pony but it does the thrash metal trick nicely.
I'm not gonna argue about it but wood affects tone. That you tube video is retarded swill and anyone who actually believes that guy probably believes that Bernie Sanders is gonna give em free college and a pony.

Ah man, you're so far off on this guy so here's another video. A shorter one...
https://youtu.be/lLqIzt2_eIw

 

[Darth Nihilus]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

Okay thanks for telling me I dont wanna sound like an idiot, one day I may try my own expiriment to see what I find but anyways thanks.

No, you're 100% correct. The wood plays ZERO part in the tone of a solid body electric guitar once it's plugged in.

 

[Lorenzar]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

Oh I endend up with the SH6 anyway like I said.

I'm now wondering about the pots, whether I should leave the 250K in or try a 500K instead.

 

[Gibson 1964]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

Don't treat the woods on an electric guitar the same way you would an acoustic. The wood won't make any bit of difference to your tone. Don't buy into the BS. Your bridge and nut will play a much bigger role on your tone than the wood so don't worry. The Duncan Distortion will give you just the right amount of power and cut unless you have a Floyd Rose type bridge which can be a bit thin and trebly in which case the Invader will cover you much better

Complete and utter BS. Wood can make an absolutely huge difference. Denial of this indicates either hearing loss or willful ignorance, or perhaps lack of trying some of the more exotic materials and nothing more. If the wood didn't matter, the bridge type shouldn't matter either because woods and bridges differ in the same categories, density, hardness, absorption of string vibration, etc. Woods matter. If they didn't I wouldn't have a crappy sounding first guitar. (Ibanez RG that has had dozens of pickup swaps and sounds dead with everything.) Aluminum necks are definitely a unique sound as well.

 

[Gibson 1964]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

No, you're 100% correct. The wood plays ZERO part in the tone of a solid body electric guitar once it's plugged in.

BS.

 

[Darth Nihilus]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

How ironic that the person being shown evidence to the contrary is the one saying we are in denial LOL.
You may not like the results but it's true. So sorry to burst your bubble
I've presented evidence proving my side so unless anyone in the "wood matters" side can demonstrate
proof to the contrary then your opinion is just that but mine remains fact!

 

[Gibson 1964]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

How ironic that the person being shown evidence to the contrary is the one saying we are in denial LOL.
You may not like the results but it's true. So sorry to burst your bubble
I've presented evidence proving my side so unless anyone in the "wood matters" side can demonstrate
proof to the contrary then your opinion is just that but mine remains fact!

You have yet to show any proof and your arguments show you either can't hear or are in denial. If the bridge matters, the wood also matters unless one is irrationally dogmatic. The video was pure ignorant crap. having tried dozens of neck swaps that were audible, the ignorant trolls so intent on proving materials matter with screws and bridges but not the wooden parts are really quite silly.

You didn't show any proof.

A youtube video of one dude is not proof.

I have done literally dozens of changes and I encourage people to try it out and hear it. The differences are obvious. I encourage people to not cling to dogma on the internet from those who hold to nonsensical views, and rather to try changes and experience reality.

 

[Darth Nihilus]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

Of course the video of one guy is enough. There are plenty more in fact. There's a video of a guy that removed the neck as the guitar was being strummed and there was zero difference that was audible or that appeared on the scope.

 

[Darth Nihilus]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

Here's the video, enjoy!
http://youtu.be/KTKfHkHZ6qQ

 

[Gibson 1964]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

Of course the video of one guy is enough. There are plenty more in fact. There's a video of a guy that removed the neck as the guitar was being strummed and there was zero difference that was audible or that appeared on the scope.

No it isn't because if, say one determinned that say, there was no difference between a single piece of 2 pieces of wood, this does not imply there is no difference between both of these and a third.

You are demonstrating a distinct lack of knowledge of logic. You cannot prove a negative empirically like this. This shows complete ignorance of logic and science. While a single difference could prove it is possible for a difference to occur, the opposite is not true. Someone with even the barest understanding of science or logic knows this.


The fact that anything is perfectly consistent on a scope seems fraudulent to me. There are too many variables. If something is perfectly consistent, you can be assured it is fake. there are too many variables in play. Some things might be kind of close, but that does not mean there are not outliers.

Being as you are failing to grasp basic logic and how science and logic work, clearly there is no point in demonstrating the irrationality of your argument since you hold to something that is a logical fallacy as your basis.

 

[Jocelyn]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

Man not this 'wood does not make a difference ' argument again. If wood did not make a if difference why would people who love the JB in alder hate it in mahogany. The same pup would sound the same in all the guitars. I have a sligh hearing disability but can tell you the JB sounded diff in both my current guitars

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[dave74]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

I generally find those alder-body/maple-neck jacksons to be on the very open and scooped side,,,,so I'd think the Black Winters would really balance it better than the sh-6.
Played plenty alder/maple/ebony with sh-6 and usually find them very clear and sharp but a bit more scooped than I prefer. (I like more mid-thickness with my clarity)

 

[Lorenzar]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

Guys, I already put the SH6 in !!!

Since the thread is blabling toward a whole another type of argument (the wood one), maybe I should start another topic elsewhere !

As a reminder, I have settled with an SH6, I have a 250K pots, it sounds good to me. Wondered how would it sounds with 500k, that's all.

 

[vinta9e]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

Post #40 answers your question.

 

[Lorenzar]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

500kΩ will be brighter and most probably louder.

By louder, you're speaking about volume right ?

It's not like I would get a thicker palm mute sounds or anything like that ?

 

[vinta9e]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

It will push the amp more in the high mid spike and open up the treble. Is it muddy or missing anything the way it is?

 

[Lorenzar]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

It will push the amp more in the high mid spike and open up the treble. Is it muddy or missing anything the way it is?

Not to me, but until you tried, you never know right ?

But I'm pleased with it.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Metal/Thrash bridge for Alder body/Maple neck

I would look at the Distortion, the JB and the Custom. If you need a neck pickup, the Jazz or Sentient would be my guess. All will get you flavors of old-school thrash.