Mid-scoop control - tone pot replacement

panamang

panamang

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Was checking out the Has Sound web site and they have a Midrange Control that replaces a standard tone pot. It's advertised as a mid-scoop that leaves the highs and lows intact. Anyone familiar with this setup (like Artie)? It looks interesting and was wondering if it would work effectively. Looks like it has a little transformer on the bottom of it. Anyway, see link below:

http://www.has-sound.com/index.htm
 
Re: Mid-scoop control - tone pot replacement

It's a coil/inductor I guess which is the "opposite" of a capacitor in a tone circuit...
 
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Another option would be the EMG EXG control. I have one in my 62 RI strat as part of the Dave Gilmour set and it works great. It dips the mids and boost the highs and lows.
 
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Most likely a small choke like what was used in the Varitone or the Howard Roberts circuits...it works, it's passive, I've used similar stuff (Greco Tone Cube, etc) and it works well with HB or hotter single coils.
 
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Benjy_26 said:
Another option would be the EMG EXG control. I have one in my 62 RI strat as part of the Dave Gilmour set and it works great. It dips the mids and boost the highs and lows.
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That setup can be expensive since you need to also buy a PA-2 preamp to make the EXG work if you're not running EMG's. This looked like a cheaper alternative.
 
Re: Mid-scoop control - tone pot replacement

its a reject band filter.... simple to do.

you do a simple low pass filter with a condensor and a resitor. you do a high pass filter with an inductance (bobin) and a resistor. you do a reject band (or pass band as well) by mixing both the low pass and the high pass. so this scoop is done with an RLC circuit. you can build that for less than an a american dollar.

they things I would do if I had time (electronics related) to the guitars.
 
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I've used one from Torres Engineering for the last 10 years on all of my strats. Some folks don't like them, I personally do like them a lot and think that it's money well spent. Very cool option!
 
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Might be good for shredding with the scooped mids. Kind of like a Dmz Steve's Special.
 
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Problem with scoops is we (guitarists) like them too much- Live, engineers are often trying to put them back in my sound- And in the studio, it's my first complaint with other's-:)

Ever notice how the tonal center of mid-level noise shifts up when you yawn (our microwave fan is a prime example)? I wish our ears were a little less analog sometimes:)

But I do love mid scoops
 
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DonLduk said:
its a reject band filter.... simple to do.

you do a simple low pass filter with a condensor and a resitor. you do a high pass filter with an inductance (bobin) and a resistor. you do a reject band (or pass band as well) by mixing both the low pass and the high pass. so this scoop is done with an RLC circuit. you can build that for less than an a american dollar.

they things I would do if I had time (electronics related) to the guitars.
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I agree with everything except that last sentence. He's using CTS pots and those inductors are several dollars also. If you consider that he probably builds those by hand, its not an unreasonable price.

He sent me an email a long time ago asking if I'd put a link to his page on my page. I did, but also said, at the time, that some of his prose on the higher value pots was a bit over the top. He was quite receptive to the criticism and editted his page. I thought that was cool. I think his products are cool devices.

But as others have mentioned, since they are passive, they'll tend to work better with higher output pups.

Artie
 
Re: Mid-scoop control - tone pot replacement

Thanks for the input Artie. I figured you'd have the "scoop" on these Midrange Controls. I've got high output buckers so I think I might give it a try. Why? ......because..........I DO LOVE HONKED MIDS:nervous:
 
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Did I say something wrong??
I mean with honk the opposite of scooped maybe it was just a different word?
 
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Marcel said:
Did I say something wrong??
I mean with honk the opposite of scooped maybe it was just a different word?
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DAS MACHT NICHTS......We understand you.
 
Re: Mid-scoop control - tone pot replacement

Artie:
yes I figured the price is worth. Just that material wise (generic stuff) you could build that for a reasonable price. of course you wouldnt want a generic thing coloring your tone, so you go for the more expensive components. Totally agree.

Also about build time--> 100% agreed.

the comment was about that if you did those little projects by yourself for fun or to mess around, the overall cost would be what i said before =)

and also agree with being a cool product. its great to see people that use those small "mess around for fun" projects to help others achieve their tone (and also make some money without abusing of course-)
 
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