Monroe Drive v2.0....

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OCDologist
So i decided to step it up a notch with my Monroe Drive before i start taking orders and add more features....and a 9v battery for those guys who need one.

so now on top of my personal favorite tone that the Monroe Drive v1.0 which lives on my board has this one covers several other tones. It’s no secret that the circuit is based off a classic 808 just like 75% of the other ODs on the market lol. However with the careful selection of only the best parts, changed values, yadda yadda etc etc. plain and simple this does more and does it better while also looking better than any other OD! It covers what a famous “dynamic overpriced” (some of you will get that lol) pedal does and more with the addition of a toggle (left side) that’s described in simplest terms a bass boost. With that high dollar OD you’re stuck with the extra amount of low end which is great and a common 808 mod which single coil blues players who use it for a creamy lead boost love. however if you stick it in front of a high gain amp playing metal to tighten things up and add dynamics which is common and how I use my Monroe Drive 9 times out of 10 you get a sound that’s way too flabby, mushy and fat. You need to cut the bass and bring back some of the mids and that’s what the toggle on the left does. The toggle on the right changes between 3 clipping modes which again in simplest terms either add or remove gain or volume and change the gain characteristics to a classic yet tweaked OD sound to a crunchy marshall-esq sound depending on the setting.

like I mentioned I only used high quality parts for this, wima and AVX caps, 1% metal film resistors to reduce unwanted noise , neutrik isolated jacks, silver mica caps, high quality IC, etc etc. Lots of time and effort went into trying different things to find what parts work best and sounded the best. There’s LOADS of info out there about the 808 style ODs and I read as much as I could of it and then tried my own thing and mixed and matched this and that and came up with what I feel is the perfect OD pedal that covers several styles of music depending on how you set it.

NO I’m not telling you what’s in it exactly so don’t ask I’ve spent way too much time on this thing to give it up that easy lol. I’m working on a second prototype…on the bench now…to finalize a few things (graphic stuff and how wires are run…little detail stuff) and both of those will be given to a few people for testing and reviews and then I’ll take orders for them after I see what those guys say. These things take quite a while to build and the finish is VERY labor intensive let alone all the internal work so I certainly won’t be cranking them out…however…my price won’t be nuts for a hand built, hand finished, all high quality parts, USA made OD pedal! I’m not trying to compete with those familiar overpriced pedals by a few other builders when it comes to price…only sound!!!

You’ll also notice in the pictures that I fixed something I HATE about most boutique overdrive pedals. For some reason builders love to stick the stomp switch 1” way from the bottom knob so if your sloppy when you step you step on the knob along with the switch possibly moving the knob and changing your setting. NOT a good thing and just a sloppy design IMO!! So with loads of measuring trying several jack types to make things fit and throwing out a few messed up enclosures LOL I figured out how to fit everything including a 9v and keep the stomp switch nice and far from the bottom tone knob so you have to try pretty hard to step on the knob when you go to turn the pedal on and off! plus it's all still in a nice small mxr size enclosure.

The final version will look very much like this…

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oh yeah, no need for a gut shot...all you see is the bottom of the board when you open it up to swap a battery. you can't see any components since they face down and it's made so only i know how to get to the guts without damaging the pedal :nana:


-Mike
 
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Looks nice, Mike. So you pretty much swapped the typical battery location and switch location around inside? Makes perfect sense. I'm surprised the big guys haven't done that. Any chance to move the knobs and switches up towards the other end another 1/4" or so?
 
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my only complaint is the power in jack location. other than that, looks real nice!!!
 
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GnR_Guy...the answer...i'm not 100% sure yet lol.

Erik...yeah it was a swap of the battery and the switch however that took more than just moving them. you can't put the battery close to a normal jack, thus the use of isolated jacks so the battery sits between the plastic of the switch and the jack housings so things can't short out. plus there was also the matter of running the wires from the switch past the battery to the board and jacks...more time, more trial and error. as for the knobs...what's throwing you off are the graphics...thus why that one is a prototype. the labels "drive" "tone" and "level" are in the wrong place and i was too lazy to do it all over again since getting the graphics on is NOT fun and it takes multiple times to get it right. in the new/final version the labels will be closer to the knobs and evenly spaced so it won't throw your eye off. in that prototype "level" and "drive" are a hair too far from the knobs. i already fixed it in the file. no need to move the knobs up, if i did it just looks visually unballanced and silly...like another OD i won't name or bash lol.

-Mike
 
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my only complaint is the power in jack location. other than that, looks real nice!!!

Yup, I have to agree with that. Not a good location, IMO. Should be at the top, or top side if it can be, at least above the input or output jack.
 
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my only complaint is the power in jack location. other than that, looks real nice!!!

that location is a MUST for everything to actually fit in that little box LOL. plus it's only like an inch give or take from the typical mxr location.

-Mike
 
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Yup, I have to agree with that. Not a good location, IMO. Should be at the top, or top side if it can be, at least above the input or output jack.

i hate top mounted power jacks like boss pedals have...NEVER NEVER NEVER will i put them on a pedal i build! :nana:

i went through all the trial and erorr with this build. it's easy for you guys to say...put it over there....guess what, it won't fit anywhere else LOL. it's there because that's the only place it and all the other parts will fit lol.

-Mike
 
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... it's only like an inch give or take from the typical mxr location.

-Mike
Which is why I use batteries with my MXR pedals. The Boss location is much better for daisy chaining. Space is tight in those things, but an inch is a long way when it comes to power daisy chains. But if it can't be changed, so be it. *If* I were to get one of these, I'd be using a battery anyway. :D
 
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One more thing....are ya gonna goop it? LOL

when you open the pedal all you see is the bottom of the board, not the actual caps and resistors and such. i think i will put goop on this just so there is no chance it will short against the enclosure. right now i have foam but goop is easier than foam and wont degrade over time...plus it looks more pro i guess LOL. also the entire clipping section, all 3 different ones, are hidden in shrink tube off the board to protect them along with the cap values used for the bass/mid toggle. the only way to see that stuff would be to damage lots of things. on top of that the board is held firmly in place and if you try to monkey with it and move it to get to the guts...you'll destroy things for sure and i won't warrantee that. only i know how to get to the guts and it's a PITA for me to do and i built the thing lol :nana: i rather have it that way though. i was joking with brent a while back that i was going to fill the entire enclosure with goop but i figure that may get pricey for goop LOL.

-Mike
 
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LOL....I was kidding with the goop actually. There really is no need to do that. I bet I could get the board out undamaged. ;)
 
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yeah i'm just doing it to keep the bottom of the board from having even the slightest chance of touching the enclosure. no real need for it but i rather be safe than sorry. it's reverse gooping since it's on the bottom lol.

-Mike
 
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One more thing....are ya gonna goop it? LOL
It won't sound good unless you goop it, you know that, right Mike?

The only trouble I'm having is figuring out other than the great graphics what the difference is between this and a BYOC is? The BYOC starts off pretty good and there are a million site with mods on them.

Good luck regardless. :bigok:

(I actually like the look of your delay better. ;) Now that's a sweet paint job)
 
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you want to know the difference....the only thing from byoc i use is the circuit board itself since it would be silly for me to pay to have a board designed that would be so similar anyway. i'd have to charge more if i did that and i don't want to charge more if i don't have to. that's it, NOTHING ELSE.

there's not one part in my Monroe drive that comes with a byoc kit aside from the PCB. the resistors are different (both type of resistor and values), the caps are different (both type of cap and values) the pots (value changes), the IC, the jacks are different heck even the wire i use is different. the enclosure is smaller on top of having a VERY custom finish that does NOT look DIY or like some of the other boutique pedals with no labels or a bland design...it's certainly not a cookie cutter pedal.

sure there are loads of sites telling you how to mod all sorts of pedals and the byoc kit is there with its mods. that's how i got into this, that kit and loads of sites....by all means man go for it...you won't find all my mods on just one or two heck not even three sites...and if you do the odds of you putting together the mods from this site and this guy and that site and that guy and the ones i decided to try on my own, not from a site, with the correct cap or resistor or pot value...not gonna happen. pretty much...you can't build this pedal from a kit or from websites you may get close but the odds of you nailing it are slim to none. this doesn't even bring the finish into the mix.

there's a reason poople pay big bucks for that dynamic overpriced pedal i mentioned...it sounds good. the price is nuts and all it is is a very modded 808 yet the wait list to get one is long long long. i knew i could take that basic idea and make it sound better with more sound options and better looks and do it for less.

this is what i did R & D loads of trial and error and piles of parts i tried on top of hours and hours of reading about pedals and mods and what this does if you change this and yadda yadda. my time, my trial and error for every inch from the circuit to the drilling of the enclosure to make everything fit, to the design of the graphics to getting those graphics on the enclosure, and my OCD for perfection is what sets it appart from the rest and is why no one but I can make it.

again, the only thing it shares with the byoc is the actual empty PCB. it's closer to that overpriced OD i mention a few times than anything else to be honest but with more options a few tweaks and a FAR better look!

-Mike
 
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I gotta say I'm jealous. I've been waiting for ages to find the dough to bread/perfboard a TS circuit, with crucial resistors/caps/opamps/diodes socketed so I can find THE circuit that fits me hehe...The Monroe seems to be your version of it! I love them little OD boxes. Takes almost no places on the board and you can fit a hell of a great circuit on there.
My own circuit would be useable as a boost AND a standalone OD. Which would mean a lot of tinkering.
 
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again, the only thing it shares with the byoc is the actual empty PCB. it's closer to that overpriced OD i mention a few times than anything else to be honest but with more options a few tweaks and a FAR better look!

-Mike
Cool man, sounds good. Good luck on the new venture! :wave:
 
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How much ya gonna be selling these for when ya make em? I've been looking to get a good od.


Also, if your planning on selling these on any bigger scale than Just to forum bros. I'de suggest checking with the Marilyn Monroe Estate about useing her Name and Likeness, And also getting permission for the warhol estate To use his artword. Really suck to get sued by The warhol AND monroe estates for useing they're stuff without permission.
If yer not planning on makeing on a larger scale than Just selling em to forum bros. Then Its probably nothing to even think about.
 
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NO large scale, VERY limited, VERY low key :D

as for price, it isn't decided 100% yet but PM me and we can talk.

-Mike
 
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