MONSTER CABLE: Any Good? scam??? lol NAD $80 powercord!

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All things being equal, hell yes a great connection from amp to wall is a premium upgrade ! At least a Hospital Grade Plug. A premium quality power cord isn't cheap, so yes, you did great! As far as the juice from your wall ( house wiring) to the power pole, thats a different story altogether Sir.
In addition to the plug upgrade ( by the way, some of these power cord /plug upgrades cost a couple hundred dollars) I connect my best amp into a power conditioner/ line fault device that cost me almost 300.00. Its called a "Panamax".
 
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I'm reminded of the old "Dragnet" theme song a this moment.

It goes like this...

Da dumb dumb dumb.....Da dumb dumb dumb dumb.

The notion that some kind of special cable from the wall to the amp is somehow supposed to make up for the shortcomings of the wire that gets the juice to the wall is ludicrous.


Seriously, you're not the first person to fall for the snake oil sales pitch and I'm not ragging on you. You're a tone hound and that's a good thing. Send it back. You probably already have and IEC cord around the house that will do the job for you. If not you have a friend that has one who will give it to you. Take your girl/wife out for a good meal instead.
 
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SlyFoxx said:
I'm reminded of the old "Dragnet" theme song a this moment.

It goes like this...

Da dumb dumb dumb.....Da dumb dumb dumb dumb.


Seriously, you're not the first person to fall for the snake oil sales pitch. Send it back. You probably already have and IEC cord around the house that will do the job for you. If not you have a friend that has one who will give it to you. Take your girl/wife out for a good meal instead.
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Slyfoxx, open your eyes .These are fabulous upgrades .Everdrone just made his power supply very very happy.
 
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Yeah, whatever. I made an addition to my post, so if you still want to quote me edit your post please.


Thanks....
 
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SlyFoxx said:
Seriously, you're not the first person to fall for the snake oil sales pitch. Send it back. You probably already have and IEC cord around the house that will do the job for you. If not you have a friend that has one who will give it to you. Take your girl/wife out for a good meal instead.
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Yes, but do those cords come with a lifetime warranty?

Think about what would happen if your "cheapo depot" power cord failed (i.e. turned into a snake, or sublimated) in the middle of a show! Then it would cost you roughly the GDP of Niue to replace! For reliability like that $80 is a steal. It's not like you could buy nearly 500 feet of power cord for the same price!

It also most certainly isn't the case that power cable is just copper wire - and you definitely couldn't go to home depot and design/build the exact same thing yourself for a fraction of the price. I mean, electricity is a fickle mistress. It doesn't uniformly obey independently verifiable "rules" or what have you. You need $80 cables to protect you in that cold harsh reality.
 
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Thank you metalmaniac, you rock!!! :headbang:

I have watched amps go up in smoke on stage a bunch of times. Heres what happens:

band gets up on rinky-dink stage at a bombed out bar, plugs straight into wall socket and soundchecks, everything is fine.

then FOH powers up, all the lighting goes on, and everyone cranks the power. Power is not consistent, and some wall socket wiring is faulty, and amp is fried; no one can figure out why???

tons of electricity being used on Friday night, unstable power grid = unclean power that slowly degrades electronics.

also there are radio frequencies and other appliances plugged in at band practice ;)

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everdrone said:
Thank you metalmaniac, you rock!!! :headbang:

I have watched amps go up in smoke on stage a bunch of times. Heres what happens:

band gets up on rinky-dink stage at a bombed out bar, plugs straight into wall socket and soundchecks, everything is fine.

then FOH powers up, all the lighting goes on, and everyone cranks the power. Power is not consistent, and some wall socket wiring is faulty, and amp is fried; no one can figure out why???

tons of electricity being used on Friday night, unstable power grid = unclean power that slowly degrades electronics.

also there are radio frequencies and other appliances plugged in at band practice ;)

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Sure, but the power conditioner fixes that, no need for special power cables IMO. Nice filtered power with a nice constant voltage and single frequency totally clean is what you need, with surge protection etc. When you have all that there is no need for a special cable.

I guess I am lucky for living in the Netherlands then. If you have bad wiring here you might get the government all over you... When you own a bar/shop etc. that is... So personally I've found even no need for a power conditioner in the Netherlands (except when working with a generator of course, which I haven't done yet). Every home or store is obligated to have a Residual Current Device here, so when you have bad house wiring there is no damage to amps etc. I guess that is different for you.
 
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MrTondo said:
Sure, but the power conditioner fixes that, no need for special power cables IMO. Nice filtered power with a nice constant voltage and single frequency totally clean is what you need, with surge protection etc. When you have all that there is no need for a special cable.

I guess I am lucky for living in the Netherlands then. If you have bad wiring here you might get the government all over you... When you own a bar/shop etc. that is... So personally I've found even no need for a power conditioner in the Netherlands (except when working with a generator of course, which I haven't done yet). Every home or store is obligated to have a Residual Current Device here, so when you have bad house wiring there is no damage to amps etc. I guess that is different for you.
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Educated and skilled home electrical craftsmen......how we envy you! LOL I'd expand on that, but it would earn me an infraction.
 
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:) I am having a little fun justifying my $80 purchase here I must admit

I have used the $1.50 power cords all along and they work just fine. hoping for a little increase in power/tone/reliability for bass and guitar, even if 1-5%, I am not that educated on the science behind this one though.

here is a rundown bar that my favorite doom bands play at that I want to play at, I have not seen an amp fail at this place but it is pretty run down, note the headline ;) I do not think cleanliness changed much: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...-roach-eggs-feces-carcasses-article-1.1264244
 
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I have several 'boutique' power cables: Tiffany, Shunyata Ressearch, Synergistic Research. I even have an MIT Reference power cable. Do ANY of them provide that magical, darker black between the notes, less noise, and more three dimensional sound on either my guitar amp or hifi?

NO.

BUT -- and here is where it gets strange -- I also have an ESP MusiCord Pro, and I will be damned if that cable doesn't do EVERYTHING you wish a power cable COULD do -- less noise, greater dimensionality, and blacker blacks between the notes.

Is it due to superior RF rejection? Shielding? Design of plugs themselves?

No clue!

But in this particular case, this cable works where my others make no difference.
 
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The electrical cable in your wall is cheap ass Romex (or if you're really unlucky, aluminum . . . slightly less unlucky, bare copper wire). That wire is running huge lengths throughout your house without being shielded by anything for hundreds of feet. Why do you think that 4-10 ft of allegedly slightly better cabling is going to have any effect on the overall performance of this huge run of cable that you're connected to?

Monster cables is one of the worst purveyors of blatant lies and misinformation about basic science that I've ever seen. If you're super concerned about your power cable failing (something that virtually never ever happens if the cable wire gauge is rated for the wattage of your device), bring a second one. Perfectly serviceable power cables can be had for 5-10$ just about anywhere. Hell, go to an office that's closing up . . . you can probably score dozens of them that are being thrown out from printers, faxes, and computers.

Electricity is electricity. Paying extra for magic unicorn dusted electrical cables just seems silly to me.
 
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hot topic :)

I am using the $1.50 cord (and extension cord if I need it) from the wall socket to my Furman

but I am hoping for the magic Twilight is talking about with this new cord that goes FROM my Furman to my amp ;)
 
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TwilightOdyssey said:
I have several 'boutique' power cables: Tiffany, Shunyata Ressearch, Synergistic Research. I even have an MIT Reference power cable. Do ANY of them provide that magical, darker black between the notes, less noise, and more three dimensional sound on either my guitar amp or hifi?

NO.

BUT -- and here is where it gets strange -- I also have an ESP MusiCord Pro, and I will be damned if that cable doesn't do EVERYTHING you wish a power cable COULD do -- less noise, greater dimensionality, and blacker blacks between the notes.

Is it due to superior RF rejection? Shielding? Design of plugs themselves?

No clue!

But in this particular case, this cable works where my others make no difference.
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sweet! that cord really works GREAT! http://www.essentialsound.com/musiccord-pro-power-cord/index.htm

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Re: MONSTER CABLE: Any Good? scam??? lol NAD $80 powercord!

if it's shielded, doesn't that make it an antenna, too?
I don't think I want my power cords shielded-
 
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I think someone let the troll loose.

If your amp is influenced by the different cable bringing power from the wall to the amp, the power supply needs looked at, or your previous cable was faulty.

Anyone that espouses some power cable that is anything more than the cheap cables that come with any appliance with an IEC cable is suffering from a bit of placebo effect or outright delusion.

If you like the features of locking IEC connectors, cable flexibility, better jacketing, that's one thing, but tonal differences are subjective at best, but in all likelihood specious.

Sent from my chromed robot turd, using the miserable junk code known as crapatalk.
 
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^ because you have tried this with HOW many aftermarket cables ... ?

I am not saying it should work -- because in my opinion, it shouldn't! And in 9/10 of my cables, it doesn't do a thing, but the ESP is different. There is a demonstrable and repeatable difference.

Why? Dunno. Don't care. Don't care what other ppl think, either, as I have nothing to prove to you.

But please don't throw 'science' at me -- science is wrong all the time, and many of you are jumping on the bandwagon simply because it's easy.

More fool you, I say! :)
 
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