MONSTER CABLE: Any Good? scam??? lol NAD $80 powercord!

Re: MONSTER CABLE: Any Good? scam??? lol NAD $80 powercord!

OK.


I have a pair of 10 year old Nike sneakers that I bought from a guy for 50,000$ that let me fly. No, you can't see me when I fly. No, I can't tell you how they work. But they totally work when I'm stoned out of my mind and completely alone in my basement. Therefore old Nike shoes can make you fly. Fact. If your shoes don't make you fly, then you clearly haven't tried every Nike shoe in existance so are using the wrong ones. I don't want to hear any of you 'science bandwagon jumpers' telling me it's not true. I'm also not able/willing to prove anything that I've said. Science is wrong all the time, therefore I'm right. I dare you to try and inject reason into this conversation.

Now **** all of you, I'm going to go fly around my basement in my magical shoes. And power my toaster with an 80$ power cable. You can totally taste the difference in the toasted bread. Anyone who says differently is clearly an idiot.
 
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TwilightOdyssey said:
But please don't throw 'science' at me -- science is wrong all the time, and many of you are jumping on the bandwagon simply because it's easy.

More fool you, I say! :)
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Science is never wrong, observations and hypotheses are wrong all the time. Look up the definition of the word science. (Hint: it means 'knowing')

I'm not saying you don't hear a difference, but I'm saying there is no measurable, quantifiable difference. Considering the amount of things between the wall socket and the actual amplification circuitry, there's no way it could make a difference, unless there was something very wrong with your original cable. The physics just don't back the snake oil.
 
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It may have been alluded to earlier, but it bears repeating:

You can have mil-spec, hospital-grade (life support mission-critical) or other hyphenated terminology phrases printed on the packaging, but if you're plugging into The Greasy Spoon Bar & Grill for the weekend, the point becomes moot.

GIGO. If the source of the power isn't clean enough, all the conditioning in the world will make little diff.

My sis-in-law works for a local hospital. I have scored some good quality IEC/3-prong 2 meter cords from her. (No patients were harmed in the process.)
I've also collected a lot of conditioning equipment from my computer repair days. My ship is pretty watertight re: power supplies.

One memorable horror story was a hispanic cuisine restaurant in a nearby town.

They had neon lighting indoors: glass tubes, in strips of 4 various colors, running the length of the walls on 3 sides. 60 Hz hornet's nest all night.
Everybody had the buzz -- PA, keys, my guitar amp, my pedal board, the bass amp. Nothing to do but rock it out.
Needless to say, I put a foam windscreen over the mic, and didn't touch anything but my guitar.
It might have sounded like I was singing into a pillow, but it sure beat dying for $100 + tips.
 
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ginormous said:
Needless to say, I put a foam windscreen over the mic, and didn't touch anything but my guitar.
It might have sounded like I was singing into a pillow, but it sure beat dying for $100 + tips.
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One of the stages at my church had some issue with this, and I broke the grounds at the microphones. It would be handy to keep a ground lift adapter on the gig bag.
 
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my furman has lights to show if the current is good or if I need to unplug. also:

Engineered specifically for use with instrument amplifiers and other high-current equipment.
The Furman P-1800 PF Power Conditioner offers a stable, protected and filtered low impedance power supply to assure maximum performance of your connected electronics. Furman's exclusive Power Factor provides a 45A peak current reservoir to minimize the detrimental effects of line impedance on high-current gear such as amplifiers and powered monitors. Clear Tone Technology provides additional line noise filtration tuned for instrument amplifiers for clean and consistent tone. Plus, equipment benefits from professional-level protection thanks to Furman's exclusive SMP and EVS technologies.

Power Factor Technology
Your amp needs a lot of power to sound its best. If you're plugging into the wall, there's a good chance your amp is not going to get the current it needs when pushed. Furman's exclusive Power Factor Technology provides a 45A peak current reservoir to give your amp the headroom it needs to operate at maximum efficiency. No matter what venue or club, or how close or far away from the power panel, Furman's Power Factor Technology keeps your instrument amplifier's tone consistent and sounding it's best.

Clear Tone Technology
Clear Tone Technology works in unison with Power Factor Technology and Linear Filtering Technology to add an additional layer of AC noise filtration specifically engineered for instrument amplifiers. Clear Tone Technology provides tuned circuits that unveil instrument tone, harmonics, and clarity, resulting in a fuller sound and improved dynamic response.
Features
Power Factor Technology supplies 45+ amps of instantaneous reserve current, on demand, for power starved amplifiers
Clear Tone Technology provides tuned filtering circuits engineered for instrument amplifiers to provide a clean and consistent tone.
Surge Protection - Furman's exclusive SMP technology provides the highest level of surge & spike protection available.
Isolated Banks - Isolated outlet banks minimize inter-component interference and noise contamination.
Noise Filtration - LiFT offers AC power filtering to ensure clean power for unequaled audio & video clarity.
LED Voltmeter - Segmented LED voltmeter monitors and displays incoming line voltage.
Voltage Protection - Advanced EVS circuitry detects dangerous voltage irregularities and safely powers down itself and connected equipment in unsafe conditions.
15 AMP Rating - 15 Amp rating featuring a high inrush magnetic circuit breaker for added protection.
Diagnostic Lights - Protection OK, Extreme Voltage and color-coded voltage range indicators provide information on power quality and operational status of unit
Four rear panel outlets.
 
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There is something called "Online UPS" which may work more effectively to eliminate dirty power problems at any place using double conversion tech. But they are expensive & mostly meant for really expensive equipment like computers & stuff I guess. They aren't advertised towards musicians so it's not something you come across often, besides they can be a bit big too.

If you really want a thick power cord then there is something that Mercury Magnetics sells, I think it's less than $80. Cheaper power cables can really suck if the contacts are poor because it's moulded & you can't make out anything, but something around $10-$15 might be as good as you need for an amp. What is the current/amperage the 400W amp needs?
 
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Hank- said:
There is something called "Online UPS" which may work more effectively to eliminate dirty power problems at any place using double conversion tech. But they are expensive & mostly meant for really expensive equipment like computers & stuff I guess. They aren't advertised towards musicians so it's not something you come across often, besides they can be a bit big too.

If you really want a thick power cord then there is something that Mercury Magnetics sells, I think it's less than $80. Cheaper power cables can really suck if the contacts are poor because it's moulded & you can't make out anything, but something around $10-$15 might be as good as you need for an amp. What is the current/amperage the 400W amp needs?
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cool thanks for asking

I did order the $80 powercord and have not decided to cancel the order tho

I have a peavey tour pro 450 head, a line 6 lowdown 400, and a gallien krueger ultralight 212 combo 500 watter

its killer to hit the strings hard and hear the dynamics and not just a flubby thump! :headbang:
 
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You don't happen to carry all of them for one gig now, do ya? Those three together are gonna weigh a bunch, I'd have spinal problems lifting that much up & down my stairs weekly lol

Nice amps though :cool2:
 
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thanks brutha :) cheers :beerchug:

I coulda got the $40 or even the $20 power cord from Monster http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/monster-cable-powerline-200-low-noise-power-cord

http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Cable-PowerLine-Upgrade-Detachable/dp/B00008Y47E

I went with the top of the line one, not sure what the specs and marketing statements mean but they seem cool:

http://www.monsterproducts.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=1072

FEATURES
For True Audiophile AV Performance, You Need an Audiophile Quality AC Power Cord
Most discriminating audiophiles know that a detachable IEC power cord can affect a system’s performance. Your components can’t deliver the best possible sound and picture when AC power is transferred by an inferior cord. Ordinary power cords can experience current loss and are vulnerable to radio frequency and electromagnetic interference.

Introducing Monster’s PowerLine 300 Advanced IEC Power Cord To Maximize Home Theater and AV Component Performance
End to end, PowerLine 300 utilizes leading edge technologies and design to achieve the best possible performance from your home theater or critical listening system. PowerLine 300 delivers efficiency, accuracy and maximum power. It combats performance-degrading RF interference, and the EM interference that’s generated by various household appliances, even adjacent components through their power lines and interconnects.

PowerLine 300 Delivers Four Times More Power for Better Sound and Picture
PowerLine 300 is designed with 261 strands of ultra-high purity copper in each of its three conductors, so you get 4 times more cable than ordinary power cords. With so much stranding, it’s flexible enough to route through cabinets,yet heavy enough to minimize resistance and maximize power transfer. It all adds up to greater visual and sonic clarity from all your AV sources. Clearer highs with rich, deep bass and cleaner, brighter video—an overall enhanced experience.

Xtra Low Noise® Technologies Keep Your Power Transfer Interference-Free
To safeguard against RF and EM interference from external and internal sources, PowerLine 300 features a unique double shield plus a double-molded termination. Two isolated layers of shielding and a full coverage mylar foil fend off external RF interference, while a tightly woven copper braid protects against EM interference. These are separated by a high-density dielectric. A drain wire connects the shield to the AC source ground, sending accumulated noise back to the wall plug, lowering the overall noise floor.

What’s more, Monster’s precision 24k gold contact plug resists corrosion and maximizes power transfer.

Enhance Your Audio/Video Experience with Monster PowerLine 300 Your AV system requires a high performance power connection. PowerLine 300 makes it possible to get all the performance you paid for!

High-performance hookup for high-powered A/V components equipped with IEC power connections.
Multi-bundled wire technology with large-gauge conductors for maximum current transfer.
Dual 100% mylar and 95% copper braid shielding for maximum rejection of EMI and RFI.
8-foot length provides greater flexibility for longer installations.
24k gold-plated contacts for maximum conductivity and corrosion resistance.
 
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GuitarStv's multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers:

For True Sneakerphile Flying Performance, You Need an Sneakerphile Quality pair of shoes
Most discriminating sneakerphiles know that a detachable shoelace can affect a sneaker’s performance. Your components can’t deliver the best possible flying and walking when lace power is transferred by an inferior lace. Ordinary shoelaces can experience power loss and are vulnerable to radio frequency and electromagnetic interference.

Introducing GuitarStv’s multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers To Maximize walking, running, and flying component Performance
End to end, GuitarStv’s multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers utilizes leading edge technologies and design to achieve the best possible performance from your sneakers or critical mobility system. GuitarStv’s multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers delivers efficiency, accuracy and maximum power. It combats performance-degrading ground interference, and the dust interference that’s generated by various household appliances, even adjacent components through their power lines and interconnects.

GuitarStv’s multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers Delivers Four Times More Sneaker Power for Better Walking and Flying
GuitarStv’s multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers is designed with 261 strands of ultra-high purity shoelace material in each of its three lace wraps, so you get 4 times more lacing than ordinary shoelaces. With so much stranding, it’s flexible enough to route through shoes,yet heavy enough to minimize resistance and maximize power transfer. It all adds up to greater visual and tactile clarity from all your walking sources. Clearer steps with swift, enjoyable strides and cleaner, better gait—an overall enhanced experience.

Xtra Low Gravity® Technologies Keep Your Power Transfer Ground-Free
To safeguard against dust and air interference from external and internal sources, GuitarStv’s multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers features a unique double shield plus a double-molded sole. Two isolated layers of shielding and a full coverage mylar foil fend off, while a tightly woven shoelace braid protects against slipping interference. These are separated by a high-density dielectric. A drain wire connects the shield to the ground, sending accumulated slippage back to the dirt, lowering the overall flight ceiling.

What’s more, GuitarStv's precision 24k gold contact sneaker end resists corrosion and maximizes power transfer while lacing up.

Enhance Your walking/flying Experience with GuitarStv’s multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers Your mobility system requires a high performance power connection. GuitarStv’s multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers makes it possible to get all the performance you paid for!





There. Written in adspeak so you know it's true. **** YOU SCIENCE!
 
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A fool and his money are soon separated...

Sent from my chromed robot turd, using the miserable junk code known as crapatalk.
 
Re: MONSTER CABLE: Any Good? scam??? lol NAD $80 powercord!

GuitarStv said:
GuitarStv's multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers:

For True Sneakerphile Flying Performance, You Need an Sneakerphile Quality pair of shoes
Most discriminating sneakerphiles know that a detachable shoelace can affect a sneaker’s performance. Your components can’t deliver the best possible flying and walking when lace power is transferred by an inferior lace. Ordinary shoelaces can experience power loss and are vulnerable to radio frequency and electromagnetic interference.

Introducing GuitarStv’s multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers To Maximize walking, running, and flying component Performance
End to end, GuitarStv’s multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers utilizes leading edge technologies and design to achieve the best possible performance from your sneakers or critical mobility system. GuitarStv’s multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers delivers efficiency, accuracy and maximum power. It combats performance-degrading ground interference, and the dust interference that’s generated by various household appliances, even adjacent components through their power lines and interconnects.

GuitarStv’s multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers Delivers Four Times More Sneaker Power for Better Walking and Flying
GuitarStv’s multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers is designed with 261 strands of ultra-high purity shoelace material in each of its three lace wraps, so you get 4 times more lacing than ordinary shoelaces. With so much stranding, it’s flexible enough to route through shoes,yet heavy enough to minimize resistance and maximize power transfer. It all adds up to greater visual and tactile clarity from all your walking sources. Clearer steps with swift, enjoyable strides and cleaner, better gait—an overall enhanced experience.

Xtra Low Gravity® Technologies Keep Your Power Transfer Ground-Free
To safeguard against dust and air interference from external and internal sources, GuitarStv’s multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers features a unique double shield plus a double-molded sole. Two isolated layers of shielding and a full coverage mylar foil fend off, while a tightly woven shoelace braid protects against slipping interference. These are separated by a high-density dielectric. A drain wire connects the shield to the ground, sending accumulated slippage back to the dirt, lowering the overall flight ceiling.

What’s more, GuitarStv's precision 24k gold contact sneaker end resists corrosion and maximizes power transfer while lacing up.

Enhance Your walking/flying Experience with GuitarStv’s multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers Your mobility system requires a high performance power connection. GuitarStv’s multi-thousand dollar flying sneakers makes it possible to get all the performance you paid for!





There. Written in adspeak so you know it's true. **** YOU SCIENCE!
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lol!
 
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GuitarStv said:
OK.


I have a pair of 10 year old Nike sneakers that I bought from a guy for 50,000$ that let me fly. No, you can't see me when I fly. No, I can't tell you how they work. But they totally work when I'm stoned out of my mind and completely alone in my basement. Therefore old Nike shoes can make you fly. Fact. If your shoes don't make you fly, then you clearly haven't tried every Nike shoe in existance so are using the wrong ones. I don't want to hear any of you 'science bandwagon jumpers' telling me it's not true. I'm also not able/willing to prove anything that I've said. Science is wrong all the time, therefore I'm right. I dare you to try and inject reason into this conversation.

Now **** all of you, I'm going to go fly around my basement in my magical shoes. And power my toaster with an 80$ power cable. You can totally taste the difference in the toasted bread. Anyone who says differently is clearly an idiot.
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trevorus said:
A fool and his money are soon separated...

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Wow ... craziness.

I find it interesting that the nay sayers, both here and at talk-bass, have no first hand experience with the product in question. They just keep repeating "science says no! grumpyface!"

Topics like this will always spark healthy and unhealthy discussion.

I have said my piece and will now withdraw from this thread.
 
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TwilightOdyssey said:
Wow ... craziness.

I find it interesting that the nay sayers, both here and at talk-bass, have no first hand experience with the product in question. They just keep repeating "science says no! grumpyface!"

Topics like this will always spark healthy and unhealthy discussion.

I have said my piece and will now withdraw from this thread.
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Who says we haven't? You want to fund this test? Physics doesn't lie, and if you want to argue with that, go right ahead.

Sent from my chromed robot turd, using the miserable junk code known as crapatalk.
 
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Sent from my chromed robot turd, using the miserable junk code known as crapatalk.
 
Re: MONSTER CABLE: Any Good? scam??? lol NAD $80 powercord!

TwilightOdyssey said:
Wow ... craziness.

I find it interesting that the nay sayers, both here and at talk-bass, have no first hand experience with the product in question. They just keep repeating "science says no! grumpyface!"

Topics like this will always spark healthy and unhealthy discussion.

I have said my piece and will now withdraw from this thread.
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Have you ever put a piece of **** in your mouth, chewed it, and swallowed it? No? Then how do you know it tastes bad? You have no first hand experience with eating a big ol piece of ****, therefore your opinion on its flavor is worthless.
 
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I am not pretending to be a knowledgeable expert, but here are some good videos on why I got my Furman which cost a lot more than the monster cable:



 
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