More Gibson silliness...

All current Gibson's releases, although of good quality compared with the latest production, are overpriced. Unreasonable high price.
​​​And as a consequence of this, even the used ones are picking up in price.
 
I like everything about this except for the price. Looks like it's about $1000 too high. Stock aluminum bridge and tailpiece, super cool. I want to hear the pickups.

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Yeah - $2400 is just weak. Real weak for that.

Meanwhile ~$1000 will get you this from Jackson

https://reverb.com/item/51428740-jackson-x-king-v-guitar

They'll even get you a 7 with active pickups for that price. Just have to get rid of that garbage Floyd Rose Special bridge.

https://reverb.com/item/72751094-jackson-x-series-rhoads-rrx24-mg7-black-satin-with-grey-bevels

Also, that Gibson costs slightly more than the cost to replace and repaint my trunk and rear bumper after a hit and run while I was parked.

...while there is a parts shortage due to the UAW strike.

That's how insane Gibson is.
 
And whatever an "80's pickup" is....

And 80's pickup in a Flying V is a JB, a Distortion, or a SuperDistortion. Maybe a Tone Zone or X2N.
I think Dirty Fingers, personally.

I highly suspect these are based off the design of the Dirty Fingers, the 500T, or the Gibson USA Duncan Distortion copy they made for the Adam Jones Standards. I bet it sounds great, much like most current Gibson pickups.
 
I like it, personally. They look great in person and play well.

Then again, I prefer solid-finished and/or minimalistic guitars 99% of the time. I'd rather have a V a solid black finish than in a boomerburst or clownburst finish, personally.

I think most Gibson USA's get some hate, and I never thought I'd see the day I'd defend Gibson, but they do have some stuff going for them. They do use "better" (or at least, more expensive to source) woods than most import guitars. At least when speaking of Mahogany. They're plek'd. They're also finished in a finish that's more expensive to apply which comes out lighter/less thick. Wether you believe that's "better" is up to you, but it's certainly different and contributes to how they sound. They also use decent quality aluminum hardware and those are Grover tuners. The pickups are not no-name Asian pickups either. The plastics are also their own house-brand. Probably outsourced, yeah, but I don't see many other companies using Gibson plastics either.

Are they better made than many imports? Maybe not, especially the similarly priced Japanese guitars or the highest-end Korean builds, but they are made in a country where labor is more expensive, and you gotta consider that for the pricing. I'm sure if they moved production out of the US and made something like MIM, their customer base (especially those buying from within the US) would soooooo not stop complaining.

I mean, they look plain, yeah, but that's not really a bad thing, is it?

I do agree, though. A big part of what you're paying for is the the Gibson brand. But then again, you don't really have to if you don't want to. And I do think part of the reason those are so expensive even if they're plain-looking is they don't make as many of those as they do, say, Les Paul Standards.
 
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I like it, personally. They look great in person and play well.

Then again, I prefer solid-finished and/or minimalistic guitars 99% of the time. I'd rather have a V a solid black finish than in a boomerburst or clownburst finish, personally.

I think most Gibson USA's get some hate, and I never thought I'd see the day I'd defend Gibson, but they do have some stuff going for them. They do use "better" (or at least, more expensive to source) woods than most import guitars. At least when speaking of Mahogany. They're plek'd. They're also finished in a finish that's more expensive to apply which comes out lighter/less thick. Wether you believe that's "better" is up to you, but it's certainly different and contributes to how they sound. They also use decent quality aluminum hardware and those are Grover tuners. The pickups are not no-name Asian pickups either. The plastics are also their own house-brand. Probably outsourced, yeah, but I don't see many other companies using Gibson plastics either.

Are they better made than many imports? Maybe not, especially the similarly priced Japanese guitars or the highest-end Korean builds, but they are made in a country where labor is more expensive, and you gotta consider that for the pricing. I'm sure if they moved production out of the US and made something like MIM, their customer base (especially those buying from within the US) would soooooo not stop complaining.

I mean, they look plain, yeah, but that's not really a bad thing, is it?

I do agree, though. A big part of what you're paying for is the the Gibson brand. But then again, you don't really have to if you don't want to. And I do think part of the reason those are so expensive even if they're plain-looking is they don't make as many of those as they do, say, Les Paul Standards.

I seem to remember Gibson's QC being garbage in the robot tuner era just before the bankruptcy.

First thing I thought of when I saw this was Het's off white Vantage Gibson V copy he had on the earliest stuff.

If Gibson prices then were like they are now no wonder he bought a copy as a kid.

That said I don't really miss lawsuit guitars. Seems lame to me to have a nearly identical copy (visually) of an instrument but a different brand on the headstock.

At least Gibson competitors usually change things up a little and come into their own, like the ESP/LTD ECs.
 
Also I say this is a step in the right direction. As far as what Gibson has been putting out, I like it. I looked at one in the GC when I was there last. Price point isn't where it needs to be, but if price wasn't a turn-off, I like it
 
Even with Epi, you're paying for the Gibson name to an extent.

I owned two of the newer Epi "renaissance" Les Pauls, and while they weren't bad, they weren't great either. Especially since you're paying more for the Gibson association, and they're not really closer to the real-deal Gibson Les Paul than any other cheap Asian copy.
 
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