Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?


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Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

I've had the misfortune to own several guitars that had dead spots and overly-lively spots on the fretboard, although not necessarily the fault of the fretboard. In other words, those instruments were not consistent in their response. Do pickups, wiring and hardware cause that ? Nope, that's the wood quality, or lack thereof.

Certain aspects of those qualities are probably also the reason for some guitars seeming to be quite magic (yes, magic ... I'm a musician, not a bleedin' scientist, and i like to play to human beings, not other damn scientists. And many or most aspects of the production of and enjoyment of good music involve magic ... an extra dimension introduced by actual skill, talent and emotional connection to actual music. When you turn off the distortion and stop trying to sound like a German industrial complex, you may actually encounter some of these concepts).

To anyone who can play and hear properly, the wood is going to be the final frontier, as it always is when seeking a new instrument. If you can't hear and feel it, you are lucky, you will be happy with any old plank of unknown material at much lower costs. If you can feel and hear it, your search will not be over until you find an instrument that manages to resonate evenly and yet has rich sonic character.

and for the record, there was a better scientist here with the same tedious proposition, but he had followers, disciples. Adeus, or something like that, was his name. Just kept going on and on and on about how the wood didn't matter. Since then we don't hear from him.

Some people should probably try to re-engage with the magic of music rather than trying to analyse every aspect of it ... after all, you may love your girlfriend or wife, but do you analyse why, to the finest degree ? Do you try to understand how a magic trick works ? If you do, you destroy the magic and will never enjoy it again.

Time spent worrying about this and annoying others is probably time that could be better spent by actually trying to become a decent player. Sound clips of tone scientists usually reveal one thing ...no, make that two .... they don't play too well and they sound like garbage.

Wood and construction mean everything to a seasoned player, and you will hear it when they play.
 
Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

again, not answering because you left off the quality of the wood used and the quality of the construction (or the workmanship of the people who build it)

I didn't "leave off" anything intentionally. The polling system only allows 10 choices. As you can see, that doesn't go very far. Also, depending on how you approach it, "quality of wood" could essentially fall under "type of wood". I didn't specify whether type meant species or something else, though I do agree with your point on overall "quality" and had considered it. I know you mentioned "pickups" in the other thread. You could still vote for those, if nothing else.

Things I would have loved to include:


Mechanical Adjustment

Pickup Placement

Quality of Materials/Construction

Body Shape

Nut Material

...and one or two others I can't think of at the moment
 
Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

I took the poll assuming "neck wood type" and "body wood type" meant quality examples of both. Same with the other stuff, I presumed quality components, just different kinds (floyd rose vs. a good vintage trem).

The greatest impact on tone, however, is whether I am playing the guitar, in which case the tone sucks.
 
Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

^ I find that the single biggest factor in a guitar's tone is whether a frayed wire inside the control cavity is shorting out against something else and causing the guitar to go silent. I almost never get a pleasing tone from a guitar in such a condition, therefore I feel this should be the primary concern.

In all seriousness, I think Ace has a valuable insight into all this. These factors all add together, and they do so in a way that's not always linear. In fact, it's more like multiplication -- a scaling, if you will. Granted, some of these components may represent scaling factors that are negligibly close to 1 (no change). A good example would be the plating on the strap buttons. But what about the plating on the bridge saddles? Or the resonant properties of a chambered carved-top vs. a solid, thin slab of, say, a very similar mahogany?
 
Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

I don't see that any of this matters at all. When you pick up a guitar you're going to make a judgement on it's tone. Does it sound good to you or not ? I couldn't care less about the factors involved and I don't think anyone else does either. It may be an interesting academic point but that's ALL it is.
 
Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

I'd like to clarify my interpretation of the OP's
intent is to seek opinions as to what 3 components
from the 10 listed have the greatest influence on tone.

With all things being equal, componentry and build,
of the highest quality, irrespective of materials, species
or manufacturer, makes it easier to decide.
I think pickups, body wood and bridge have
the greatest overall influence on tone.
Individual differences in any of these comppnents
will yield the gratest variences in tone relative to
the impact the other components may have.

Now shut up and play yer guitar!
 
Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

Dang, a boy can't even post a poll anymore without people throwing stones and coming under fire for what are clearly not scientific methods.

I was just curious where people's heads are at as far as what elements of a GUITAR (not player skill or "fingers", not the amp, etc.) are the most important factors in achieving that "perfect" sound we all imagine in our heads. There's no "right" or "wrong" answer here. It's just a rough outline of what people "think".

The poll system limits the choices to just 10, so my options were limited. Plus, if I was interested in a "scientific" research study, I'd go to a lab, not a forum.

If you feel the available selections don't hit on what YOU consider the most important element(s) of the actual guitar in determining its "tone", feel free to post them in the comments, as others have (but be decent about it...sheesh).

Welcome to the internets, land of eternal butthurt.:oo People are more likley to act this way on the internets than in person.

Glad to see at least most agree that pickups and body wood are essential.
 
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Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

Most important factor(s)? The player, setup, and amp but those aren't options.

Voted for:

Pickups - If you have ever replaced them, you know.

Neck wood type - Just neck type in general. Frets, wood, truss rod, string action.

Pots/Wiring - Wired correctly? Pot values? Series/parallel? Split? Phase? Tapped? Filtered?
 
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Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

Whoops. Only voted for body wood.

My other two would be pickups and neck wood.
 
Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

Ok, I'm in a serious mood tonight

#1 Pickups. You won't get any humbucker to sound like a good strat single, or P90 etc. and triple versa (if thats an expression).
#2 Wood.....neck slightly ahead of body IMO. The wood absorbs and reflects energy....this is almost as important as the pickups. Nothing will sound good in a guitar made with wood not suited to a guitar.

#3....??? they're about level pegging after that, maybe construction as that relates to the wood.
 
Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

What do you guys think is the most important factor in the EVH tone? :naughty:
 
Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

The entire build impacts the sound, but I still find it amusing that people think the wood and fretboard significantly matter with an electric guitar. You run it through an amp and you lose it all... the pickups, amp, and pedals color the sound so much (and your fingers) that the differences in the wood as negligible.

But, hey, just my opinion.
 
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Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

Also, I'll point out my long-standing belief that none of this matters to the audience.
 
Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

^ so a Les Paul with Alder body and graphite neck would be exactly the same as a Les Paul made of mahogany? because of the gain of the pedals/amp?
 
Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

Truss rod cover screw makes or breaks a guitars tonze.
Reliced is better.
If you can find NOS or a source of '50's-era, pre-nuclear testing, metal, that's best.
 
Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

Also, I'll point out my long-standing belief that none of this matters to the audience.
+∞.

If it isn't about playability, the point of diminishing returns is reached when you worry more how aesthetics effect sound.
 
Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

^ so a Les Paul with Alder body and graphite neck would be exactly the same as a Les Paul made of mahogany? because of the gain of the pedals/amp?

No, I said that the impact is minimal compared to pickups, amp and pedals. Plus, the player adds so much to the tone.

I always liken it to the stories of established guitar players who sound like themselves regardless of the guitar.

I feel like we all (here) place so much emphasis on the quality of woods and differences in tone (baked maple anyone?) and then we all jump up ad say that xyz's squier sounds as good as a MIM strat, which sounds as good as a USA strat....blah blah blah
 
Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

I think that the plectrum i play with, and the way i touch the strings, are the things that most determine the tone. I have all sorts of picks, and for example, today, i played the same guitar through the same rig, with three different picks, and the tone sounded COMPLETELY different depending on the pick.

Also, I'll point out my long-standing belief that none of this matters to the audience.

Plus this quote makes me think about what i should really care about, which is learning how to entertain and allowing myself to entertain others.

That being said, i think the most important factors i have to focus on are interpersonal relationships with other musicians, composition, leading a good life to be always (or whenever possible) inspired from, and that's it.
 
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Re: Most Important Factor in the "Tone" of an Electric Guitar?

BREAK TIME!

Time to take a break and watch these people make idiots out of themselves!

 
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