my (current) pedalboard set up

Well...in another thread Scottish and Curly want to know more about this plus I have gotten a few other PM's as well so I'll just started a thread...

First let me say my pedalboard is in a constant state of change at the moment and it's looking a bit sloppy in these pics but I htink you guys will get the idea. As sad as this is Im still working on it and even have a few more pedals on the way so there will be a swap or 2 made real soon and maybe one more addition but for now this is it...

So, I have both dirt and boost and fuzz pedals on the board and some of them I like using together and som I do not so with the help of my Loop Master switcher I can get all the sounds I want with far less tap dancing.

It looks like this:

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Notice...5 lights but only 4 switchs...here is the run down.

From left to right the lights are labeled loop 3, loop 1, loop 2, bypass and tuner. Now, the switch hard left is the off/on for loop 3...loop 3 for me in this setting is used for patching in effects that are not on the board that I might add or take away at any given time and might be of very little use to you guys but thats what it is and does.

Now, the next switch...notice it's between the LED's for loop 1 and 2...that switch simply toggles between those 2 loops (1 and 2) and this is the key to my set up...in loop 1 I have a fuzz (right this minute my AnalogMan NKT275 Fuzz Face) and that the only pedal in that loop and in loop 2 I have my Seymour Duncan Pickup Booster and that runs into my AM Beano Boost and that runs into my King of Tone and that the end of loop 2.

Moving on the BYPASS switch bypasses ALL these loops...1, 2 and 3 with one stomp and the tuner is simply a tuner mute function that lets me silent tune plus it keeps the buffer in the Boss tuner away from my fuzz pedals.

Now, back to loops 1 and 2...what this set up lets me do is, while using loop 2 I can use my King of Tone and stack that with the pickup booster when Im playing Fender guitars as well as stack it with my Beano for more gain and different tonal options and even if just 1 or even all 3 of those pedals are on I can simly switch to the Fuzz Face with one stomp or by stomping the BYPASS switch I can go to a clean signal.

So, here is the whole board...ignore the red Fuzz Face and the JMI Tonebender, they are not hooked up...I've just been fuzz testing lately!

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So the signal chain goes like so...guitar ->Octron->wah wah pedal-> Loopmaster switcher->chrous->tremolo->Echoplex (not pictured) out to amps.

In the looper is the "dirt switcher" and it really does work quite well...Brian at Loopmaster makes several different variaitions of these units and does them completely custom as well if thats what you need.

The beautiful part is that you can put whatever you want in these loops and do almost anything you want with them. Brian calls them "Clean/Dirty effetcs switchers" but in my case it's a Dirty/Fuzzy effetcs switcher.

Scottish, this would easily let you set up your board with a dirt box, a compressor and a fuzz and never have to hit more than one button to go from dirt+compressor to fuzz and not have to worry about the fuzz playing well wiht the other pedals.

Anyway, I've rambled long enough...Im off to mess with my board a little more!
 
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I love seeing pedal boards that WORK, you know what I mean? A board with 20 effects on it is interesting, but if you struggle with it at a gig and tap dance all the time, what's the point? You've come up with a very good system that works for you, and that's really impressive.

So, I'm guessing the Loop Master's signal path is Tuner switch -> Bypass -> Loop 1/2 -> Loop 3 ... is that right?
 
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I love seeing pedal boards that WORK, you know what I mean? A board with 20 effects on it is interesting, but if you struggle with it at a gig and tap dance all the time, what's the point? You've come up with a very good system that works for you, and that's really impressive.

So, I'm guessing the Loop Master's signal path is Tuner switch -> Bypass -> Loop 1/2 -> Loop 3 ... is that right?

Yeah, thats about right...if you hit the tuner button it just kills the signal and goes right to the tuner...since the Octron and the Wah pedal are before the Loopmaster switcher I am going through them before I get to the tuner but as long as you don't try and tune with the Octron on it's no big deal.

Then you have the BYPASS switch which just kills everything in loops 1, 2, and 3 no matter what they are or if they are on or off...if BYPASS is selected the signal chain goes from the wah pedal right to the Boss DC-2 chorus but it will still allow you to use the tuner loop.
 
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Yeah, thats about right...if you hit the tuner button it just kills the signal and goes right to the tuner...since the Octron and the Wah pedal are before the Loopmaster switcher I am going through them before I get to the tuner but as long as you don;t try and tune with the Octron on it's no big deal.

Then you have the BYPASS switch which just kills everything in loops 1, 2, and 3 no matter what they are or if they are on or off...if BYPASS is selected the signal chain goes from the wah pedal right to the Boss DC-2 chorus but it will still allow you to use the tuner loop.

Cool ... that's actually a very intelligently-designed looper. It's really simple, but very versatile. Any clicks or pops while switching?
 
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Cool ... that's actually a very intelligently-designed looper. It's really simple, but very versatile. Any clicks or pops while switching?

Thanks!

I gotta give props to Brian at Loopmaster...the clean dirty switcher was his brainchild...the master bypass was a great add on as was the tuner mute and the 3rd loops for patching in off board effects is just killer.

Anyway, popping...none! I can't say enought good about loopmaster stuff, it's well made, priced well and Brian was great to work with.
 
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I noticed you're using an Octron instead of the Fulltone Ultimate Octave. What are the positives and negatives of each.
I'll be looking for one soon, and was planning on the Ultimate Octave, but curious about the one you have.
 
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I need a diagram. :(
just kidding ... that was a good explanation.

I knew you were using a Loop Master of some sort.. very practical layout.

one reason I was curious about your set up was that when I went up north, my friend loved a fuzz I made, but as you know, you can't just stick those in the chain, and you especially can't daisy chain an old school PNP fuzz with modern pedals
 
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I need a diagram. :(
just kidding ... that was a good explanation.
I knew you were using a Loop Master of some sort.. very practical layout.
one reason I was curious about your set up was that when I went up north, my friend loved a fuzz I made, but as you know, you can't just stick those in the chain, and you especially can't daisy chain an old school PNP fuzz with modern pedals

It sort of looks complex but really it's quite simple.

Thats whats so great about the Loopmaster unit...it keeps the tuner away from the fuzz pedals and the other "new style" pedals come after it plus the Boost+OD and fuzz switching is so nice!
 
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I agree that it's a complex looking solution that actually simplifies, improves, and adds flexibility to your rig, which is perfect.
 
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I noticed you're using an Octron instead of the Fulltone Ultimate Octave. What are the positives and negatives of each.
I'll be looking for one soon, and was planning on the Ultimate Octave, but curious about the one you have.

Well...here is what happened. I was using the Fulltone Ultimate Octave (which I still have and still really like!) for fuzz and octavia/fuzz sounds and at the time I was using an old MIJ Boss OC-2 for sub octave sounds but the buffer in the OC-2 was really messing with the fuzz plus I liked the Fuzz Face I had much better than the UO for fuzz but it didn't have an octave up feature. Not that the Fuzz Face is a "better" fuzz but it suits my style and playing more and I like the flexibility of a good Fuzz Face.

So, I got the Octron to try and it really worked out...I was able to clear 2 pedals off the board in favor of 1, thats always a plus and on top of that the Octron is true bypass so I could run it in front of my fuzz pedals.

The Octave down feature sounds better IMHO than the Boss and is more versitile since it has a tone control trimmer in it letting me go from a big fat bottom sub octave that will shake the floor to a midrange heavy woody octave down feature thats a lot tighter and more in control and anywhere in between.

Plus the Octave up feature sounds as good if not better than the octave up in the Ultimate Octave but I can stack it what whatever fuzz is on my board at the time plus I can run it with dirt pedals for a much milder Octavia tone and the octave up feature on the Octron has volume, gain and tone controls so it's also really tweakable and easy to taylor to a rig.

The Ultimate Octave is a great unit and the footswitchable octave up is a step ahead of the Foxx Tone Machine (which is what the UO is based on) but the ability to add Octavia sounds to any of my fuzzes is great, the abilty to keep my sub octave effect on the board and keep it BEFORE dirt and fuzz boxes (where it sounds best) was a huge deal also...all in all it was a good move for me but by all means not the only answer. Like I said, i kept my UO and have no plans to move it...it is a great sounding unit!
 
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thats pretty awesome, thanks for the info. If the flying tomato doesnt work out on my board then i think im going to be in touch with brian.

cheers
 
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Thanks for the Octave comparison. I'm sure I'll get the Ultimate Octave eventually. That, and the Deluxe MM are the only 2 I feel the need to get.
 
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Thanks for the Octave comparison. I'm sure I'll get the Ultimate Octave eventually. That, and the Deluxe MM are the only 2 I feel the need to get.

If you add a DMM and the Ultimate Octave to that set up you'll be good to go for sure!

The UO is for sure a great box I just like the versitility of being able to add octave up and down to any fuzz I have.
 
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Interesting setup of the clean/dirty switcher...

With the master bypass engaged, all three loops are bypassed... but with it 'off' are you always running through either loop 1 or loop 2? Like, can you run loop 3 on its own without passing through 1 or 2?

At some point I'm going to have Brian build me another more complex switcher then the 2-loop I have now...
 
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Looks great!

I love using the Lehle switchers with MIDI control; keeps all the mess behind my amp, with a single wire going to the backline. (Well, technically, 2 cables)

I find the actual pedals used change from gig to gig, so my 'current' setup, like yours, is ever changing!
 
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Interesting stuff. -that's opened my eyes to what i could do with a non-midi or dip-switch based tb looper for my board. Ta for sharing!
 
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Interesting setup of the clean/dirty switcher...
With the master bypass engaged, all three loops are bypassed... but with it 'off' are you always running through either loop 1 or loop 2? Like, can you run loop 3 on its own without passing through 1 or 2?
At some point I'm going to have Brian build me another more complex switcher then the 2-loop I have now...

Thanks!

With this looper/switcher loop 3 is bypassed wiht the BYPASS engaged and the only way I could run just loop 3 would be to click off whatever is in loop 1 or 2 at that time...in other words in this set up it is always running through 1 or 2 if it is on...

I had the option of going both ways but this was the better set up for me...

Brian is the man with these switchers...it really has helped me out!
 
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Looks cool.

Looks great!
I love using the Lehle switchers with MIDI control; keeps all the mess behind my amp, with a single wire going to the backline. (Well, technically, 2 cables)
I find the actual pedals used change from gig to gig, so my 'current' setup, like yours, is ever changing!

Thanks guys!

I did the MIDI trip for a while once and it's really great but this was really just an easier system for me and keeps it so I can do more on the fly and have less in terms of preset tones. However, as you know...a good MIDI set up can be a great tool!
 
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