my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
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larry_emder
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Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
Caused by a large change in temperature i would imagine.
I would take it back to the shop i got it from
Caused by a large change in temperature i would imagine.
I would take it back to the shop i got it from
brit84
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Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
youll never know unless you try. Unless you left it outside and brought it inside and did not let it warm up, then that couls have caused it. It has been -34C here and it doesnt do anything to my guitar if i leave it inside (obv), so outside temp wont affect paint inside.
youll never know unless you try. Unless you left it outside and brought it inside and did not let it warm up, then that couls have caused it. It has been -34C here and it doesnt do anything to my guitar if i leave it inside (obv), so outside temp wont affect paint inside.
Kivitel
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Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
Hey - if you live in the bay area, there is no chance in hell the temperature has changed fast enough and dramatically enough to crack your finish (which is an insane notion to begin with). Take it back, call gibson, do whatever it takes. That problem can only get worse.
Hey - if you live in the bay area, there is no chance in hell the temperature has changed fast enough and dramatically enough to crack your finish (which is an insane notion to begin with). Take it back, call gibson, do whatever it takes. That problem can only get worse.
Jeff_H
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Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
Hell, keep it, that's awsome. Folks pay big bucks to get their finish to check, and your's is doing it on it's own. That is the beauty of a Nitro finish, it ages and cracks so wonderfully. It's a blessing. I wish my Les Paul would have done that.
Hell, keep it, that's awsome. Folks pay big bucks to get their finish to check, and your's is doing it on it's own. That is the beauty of a Nitro finish, it ages and cracks so wonderfully. It's a blessing. I wish my Les Paul would have done that.
Bezmotivnik
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Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
I doubt they will warrant this defect -- and it is a defect.
FMIC produced a tremendous number -- thousands -- of bad polyurethane neck finishes due to poor prep, poor wood/finish curing or some other problem for at least a full year, to my immediate knowledge, around 2000. After having bought five (5) new US Fenders of that general production period and had the neck finishes ALL develop problems, I quit buying FMIC Fenders. They may still be producing this garbage for all I know.
The finish started cracking and lifting often before the instruments left the stores. A typical problem was finish blistering at the tip of the skunk stripe and over the fretboard dots on maple fingerboards. Cracks would eventually appear along the grain at spots where the wood had compound curves, like the heel and head. Eventually, the cracks cover the entire neck and the finish begins to lift.
This happened to new, virtually unplayed instruments sitting in their cases in my bedroom studio in temperate California. They never left my house. No strange solvents or cleaners were ever applied -- in short, there was no "excuse" for these disintegrating finishes.
To put this into perspective, I have approximately forty guitars and basses of all vintages. Of all of them that are sitting in the same room, some for years longer and some having spent decades in inclement climates, NOT ONE has developed these neck finish cracks. Of the US FMIC Fenders ALL of them -- 100% -- developed these problems and began self-destructing within a year of purchase and continue to worsen to this day.
Dirtbag FMIC will not admit a defect, nor will they warrant repairs. FMIC dismisses all problems like this as "climate damage" not covered by their generally-worthless warranty. This is about $8000 MSRP worth of axes, all with crap necks and I'm stuck with them.
In that Gibson, Inc. are usually bigger corporate scumbags than even FMIC, I expect a similar outcome with your problem.
I doubt they will warrant this defect -- and it is a defect.
FMIC produced a tremendous number -- thousands -- of bad polyurethane neck finishes due to poor prep, poor wood/finish curing or some other problem for at least a full year, to my immediate knowledge, around 2000. After having bought five (5) new US Fenders of that general production period and had the neck finishes ALL develop problems, I quit buying FMIC Fenders. They may still be producing this garbage for all I know.
The finish started cracking and lifting often before the instruments left the stores. A typical problem was finish blistering at the tip of the skunk stripe and over the fretboard dots on maple fingerboards. Cracks would eventually appear along the grain at spots where the wood had compound curves, like the heel and head. Eventually, the cracks cover the entire neck and the finish begins to lift.
This happened to new, virtually unplayed instruments sitting in their cases in my bedroom studio in temperate California. They never left my house. No strange solvents or cleaners were ever applied -- in short, there was no "excuse" for these disintegrating finishes.
To put this into perspective, I have approximately forty guitars and basses of all vintages. Of all of them that are sitting in the same room, some for years longer and some having spent decades in inclement climates, NOT ONE has developed these neck finish cracks. Of the US FMIC Fenders ALL of them -- 100% -- developed these problems and began self-destructing within a year of purchase and continue to worsen to this day.
Dirtbag FMIC will not admit a defect, nor will they warrant repairs. FMIC dismisses all problems like this as "climate damage" not covered by their generally-worthless warranty. This is about $8000 MSRP worth of axes, all with crap necks and I'm stuck with them.
In that Gibson, Inc. are usually bigger corporate scumbags than even FMIC, I expect a similar outcome with your problem.
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kmcguitars
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Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
By all means take it back and make a stink about it. Lacquer NEVER fully cures,And is susceptible to rapid temp. changes. The good news is... Lacquer cracks can be repaired unnoticeable by anyone skilled with burn it sticks.
By all means take it back and make a stink about it. Lacquer NEVER fully cures,And is susceptible to rapid temp. changes. The good news is... Lacquer cracks can be repaired unnoticeable by anyone skilled with burn it sticks.
Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
yeah, the store said it's weather checking and not covered by the warranty. I also have a les paul standard, tele 52 reissue, and a jackson soloist in the same room, and no problems with any of them....
Just a poor job done by gibson, no doubt.:smack: it's an explorer studio, so probably done by first year finish guys, or half assed....I guess I can get it repaired if I want to....
By all means take it back and make a stink about it. Lacquer NEVER fully cures,And is susceptible to rapid temp. changes. The good news is... Lacquer cracks can be repaired unnoticeable by anyone skilled with burn it sticks.
yeah, the store said it's weather checking and not covered by the warranty. I also have a les paul standard, tele 52 reissue, and a jackson soloist in the same room, and no problems with any of them....
Just a poor job done by gibson, no doubt.:smack: it's an explorer studio, so probably done by first year finish guys, or half assed....I guess I can get it repaired if I want to....
BigAlTheBird
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Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
I say keep it. Finish checking is the coolest thing that can happen to any guitar, which is something being lost in this poly generation.
I say keep it. Finish checking is the coolest thing that can happen to any guitar, which is something being lost in this poly generation.
ratherdashing
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Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
If the guitar has good tone, good action, resonates well, and feels good in your hands, I wouldn't bother trying to get it repaired or replaced. There are some things far more important than the finish. If you exchange it, you risk ending up with a dead-sounding guitar ... especially with a Gibson.
If the guitar has good tone, good action, resonates well, and feels good in your hands, I wouldn't bother trying to get it repaired or replaced. There are some things far more important than the finish. If you exchange it, you risk ending up with a dead-sounding guitar ... especially with a Gibson.
big_black
Opaqueologist
Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
Hold on to the guitar for a year, play it, let it continue to check and then sell it for twice what you bought it for to some relic freak who has more money than sense.
I don't see Gibson honoring warrantee here. They don't know how you stored it and lacquer checks, that's just the way it is.
Hold on to the guitar for a year, play it, let it continue to check and then sell it for twice what you bought it for to some relic freak who has more money than sense.
I don't see Gibson honoring warrantee here. They don't know how you stored it and lacquer checks, that's just the way it is.
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GuitarGuy503
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Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
As Jeff said before, people pay big bucks for the checked finish look. You may be able to turn some good profit a year or so down the road if you continue to let the checking take its course. So I say until then, play the hell out of it, and give it some extra mojo in the meantime. Who knows the finish checking look may eventually grow on you and you may end up keeping it and decide not to sell it. :smokin:
As Jeff said before, people pay big bucks for the checked finish look. You may be able to turn some good profit a year or so down the road if you continue to let the checking take its course. So I say until then, play the hell out of it, and give it some extra mojo in the meantime. Who knows the finish checking look may eventually grow on you and you may end up keeping it and decide not to sell it. :smokin:
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GuitarGuy503
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Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
Out of curiousity is there any new checking going on? Or does it remain the same as in the pictures? If its got new checking going on you should update us with pics every week or so. I'd be curious to see a guitar go through it's checking stages.....
Out of curiousity is there any new checking going on? Or does it remain the same as in the pictures? If its got new checking going on you should update us with pics every week or so. I'd be curious to see a guitar go through it's checking stages.....
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astrozombie
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Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
id say there isnt much going on, unless he is still exposing it to changes.
id say there isnt much going on, unless he is still exposing it to changes.
GuitarGuy503
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Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
Well my thought is that the finish of the guitar may be more suseptable to checking now even under less significant temp changes due to the fact theres previous checking in the finish. I think the separation in the guitars finish may require less of a significant temp change due to the fact that the inner part of the finish is now exposed.
Well my thought is that the finish of the guitar may be more suseptable to checking now even under less significant temp changes due to the fact theres previous checking in the finish. I think the separation in the guitars finish may require less of a significant temp change due to the fact that the inner part of the finish is now exposed.
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Lewguitar
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Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
If it was very cold, chances are you cranked the heat and it was very warm in your room. Still, if the guitar is only 45 days old I'd see if they'll fix it. You'll be without your guitar for a while though. Lew
If it was very cold, chances are you cranked the heat and it was very warm in your room. Still, if the guitar is only 45 days old I'd see if they'll fix it. You'll be without your guitar for a while though. Lew
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
actually, i couldnt agree more.
that makes perfect sense.
actually, i couldnt agree more.
that makes perfect sense.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: my guitar's paint is cracking - WTF?
this is what i was talking about.
i can totally see that happening, especially if the process is repeating itself.
this is what i was talking about.
i can totally see that happening, especially if the process is repeating itself.
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