My Name is B Bent and I am addicted to old Fender amps!!!

Re: My Name is B Bent and I am addicted to old Fender amps!!!

You know why the Bandmaster Reverb and Showman Reverb are so tall? If the reverb springs are to close the transformers you get alot of hum. So they made the cab tall to get the springs away from the transformers. Lew

I thought they made them so tall also to emulate Marshall amps a bit, as marshall are quite tall. At least that's what I had heard, don't know that there's any truth to that statement.
 
Re: My Name is B Bent and I am addicted to old Fender amps!!!

You know why the Bandmaster Reverb and Showman Reverb are so tall? If the reverb springs are to close the transformers you get alot of hum. So they made the cab tall to get the springs away from the transformers. Lew

I never thought about thatbut you are right...funny, I always wondered why those things were so tall but never even thought about the reverb tank!

Good call Lew!
 
Re: My Name is B Bent and I am addicted to old Fender amps!!!

Lew,
When looking for a BMR I saw several that were listed as having a hum/hiss when the verb was cranked. I researched this and found good evidence to back this up. I think that's a very good call.
 
Re: My Name is B Bent and I am addicted to old Fender amps!!!

You know why the Bandmaster Reverb and Showman Reverb are so tall? If the reverb springs are to close the transformers you get alot of hum. So they made the cab tall to get the springs away from the transformers. Lew

The local amp. tech here told me the same thing. I was looking at a Princeton reverb that someone had converted (cut down) into a head (and retained the reverb) without going to an "extra" high/tall head cabinet size.

Dave
 
Re: My Name is B Bent and I am addicted to old Fender amps!!!

All that makes sense, but I used to own a super quiet Two Rock Custom REverb that had the reverb tank stuff into a "normal" sized head enclosure.

Darn near rubbed up against the power tubes it was so tight in there. (I shoudl sig myself on that last line!)

I think the hiss you hear on a 40 year old BMR probably has more to do with the old components inside than where that tank is located. I don't disagree about the theory, just pointing out that i've seen other examples. Plus the extra room gives a bit more air volume to help ventilate the heat.
 
Re: My Name is B Bent and I am addicted to old Fender amps!!!

Cool amp B_Bent, grats with it :)

Aint you gonna get a ENGL someday? They have some of the best overdriven tone you will every hear :D
 
Re: My Name is B Bent and I am addicted to old Fender amps!!!

Cool amp B_Bent, grats with it :)

Aint you gonna get a ENGL someday? They have some of the best overdriven tone you will every hear :D

*it's at this point in the thread that the jukebox came to a sudden jarring halt, a waitress dropped a glass on the floor and everyone stopped to look at the poor sod that just managed to commit an unforgivable sin*
 
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Oh....and this thread needs more Tweed...
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Oh....and this little gem popped up on CL today:

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/msg/298869565.html

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Overpriced?

Sure....but the thing about them is that they're just not making them anymore!

Had I know in the 80's what I now know I likely would have spent a whole lot more time seeking out older Fender amps than anything else.
 
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*it's at this point in the thread that the jukebox came to a sudden jarring halt, a waitress dropped a glass on the floor and everyone stopped to look at the poor sod that just managed to commit an unforgivable sin*


And I second that!!!! An ENGL may be cool, but will never make it to my arsenal.
 
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*it's at this point in the thread that the jukebox came to a sudden jarring halt, a waitress dropped a glass on the floor and everyone stopped to look at the poor sod that just managed to commit an unforgivable sin*

*Elderly lady passes out in booth. Man in bathroom overhears statement, turns toward the door with a scowl, not bothering to finish up with his business. Lone cricket is heard in the background.*
 
Re: My Name is B Bent and I am addicted to old Fender amps!!!

Sure....but the thing about them is that they're just not making them anymore!

Had I know in the 80's what I now know I likely would have spent a whole lot more time seeking out older Fender amps than anything else.

You know, looking at that trashed out old TD, it makes me wonder if that thing went through a flood or something. Personally, I think that with good iron and tubes, you can make a new deluxe that will sound just as good. Might not look as cool, but geez, for 1800, I can build 2 or 3 and still make a small profit. :smokin:
 
Re: My Name is B Bent and I am addicted to old Fender amps!!!

Had I know in the 80's what I now know I likely would have spent a whole lot more time seeking out older Fender (EDIT by JB: AND MARSHALL) amps than anything else.

No freaking kidding. I can't even go into that discussion without punching myself in the face over the stuff I passed over or sold :headache:


That said, beautiful tweed champ Skarey, and Congrats on the SF, Greg!
 
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You know, looking at that trashed out old TD, it makes me wonder if that thing went through a flood or something. Personally, I think that with good iron and tubes, you can make a new deluxe that will sound just as good. Might not look as cool, but geez, for 1800, I can build 2 or 3 and still make a small profit. :smokin:

especially with a gibson speaker, that sounds crazy over priced
 
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You know, looking at that trashed out old TD, it makes me wonder if that thing went through a flood or something. Personally, I think that with good iron and tubes, you can make a new deluxe that will sound just as good. Might not look as cool, but geez, for 1800, I can build 2 or 3 and still make a small profit. :smokin:

I won't debate that you could likely put something together that would sound just as good. Matter of fact, had that Champ not come up like it had the odds are that you would have likely gotten an email from me to do something like that alot sooner. It's also very possible that because of that Champ I may very well inquire about building one that I won't be terrified to leave the house with!

But for me that amp represents a certain something, a collectible, a historic link to a time and something that I place a certain value in.

Growing up I dreamed of gear. It may sound weird, but I dreamed of gear like other kids dreamed of cars or motorcycles. When I was in high school every shop owner tried their damndest to talk me into solid state gear yet, when i went and looked through the albums and tapes and CD's of artists whose tone I loved, none of them were using that kind of gear. Everyone expected tubes to dry up and we would be a world of chassis without tubes and that would be it.

I think I kind of bought into it. I talk about having known then what I know now and something like a Tweed Champ is a step in the right direction to rectifying the mistake I made. I paid what I did because it was a fair deal and because it's something I can place that much value into.

To me there's something magical to be able to plug into it and know that this was an amp that came out of the same place that made gear that changed the world of music. It's the tool for tones that I hear in songs that changed my life.

It's hard to explain but to me there's more to it than just the parts and what they do together. There's an entity to it, something I identify it with that I value.

I never thought I would own anything from Fender from the 50's. Never. Especially at a point in my life when I could barely afford entry-level gear and was so far in debt I never thought I'd climb above it.
 
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Dude say no more Skarey. I share the same perspective.
 
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I totally understand. I love vintage gear as well. That old Pro Reverb I bought had to have so much done to it that after I finished I laughed as I could have added a few more parts and built a new one. For less. :)

Hey, it wont be long before I pick up an old vibro champ blackface. There are still some nice specimens out there. I think an old champ would be cool as well as long as it didn't look to abused. There's that fine line for me between cool and abused.
 
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Addicted to old Fenders? I got a few for ya here, from '51-up along with a few other brands:

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There's the '59 Bassman (in front of the two blond bassman-amps, to the left of the pic):

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Re: My Name is B Bent and I am addicted to old Fender amps!!!

If you're ever thinking about getting rid of any of those old Fenders you tell me! That's really really impressive!
 
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