My New Favorite...

Silence Kid

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I only just picked up this guitar despite posting about it a decent amount in the last month. I'll skip the story and stick to the main talking points:

-WOW. This guitar is *killer.* I'd played it before, but never in a controlled environment to recognize its unique traits. It redefines sustain, and is like an old friend to play. The ergonomics are just perfect, and it feels sooo solid. Notes just burst out. It's like I can abuse it with my pick hand and the guitar enjoys it. It's so responsive/solid to play- like nothing I've experienced before

-Slight negative- I determined the saddles are from a G&L vibrato. This means the B and high E will not intonate unless I buy longer screws. The other strings are on the last few threads. The action is a similar story: except for the D/G, all the strings are at the absolute end of the grub screws to get the action where I want it and would not go any higher (~2mm at the 12th fret.) I have micro tilt backed off all the way. The reason is, original F100 saddles were thicker. It's playable but it's on its tippy-toes.

(I'm working to rectify this with tracking down new saddles.)

-The pickups... Holy ****, they just kick ass. I think these are the smoothest, biggest sounding pickups I've ever played. The treble is rock solid/clear, the attack is quick, but the bass is just enormous. The guitar has a passive treble/bass system, and I'm playing it mostly with both controls between 5 - 7 . The pickups are pretty compressed in a way that makes pulling off quick country or shred licks really natural.

The red switch is a split that keeps part of the opposite coil alive for hum-cancelling. This is STILL a heavy tone, heavier/louder than my '87 SC3 MFD singles, in fact it almost sounds mellower/darker when split, just less output. Seriously- when I google these people seem to complain about the tone, and either attribute it to the PTB circuit, many switches, or the pickups. But to me- god, it's just perfect. Unique, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

Lastly- This thing makes me want to play. I seriously do not want to put it down, and I haven't felt that way about playing guitar in a long, long time.

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Nice! If getting new screws/saddles is all it needs I’m not seeing any real issues there!! Congrats!!
 
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Nice guitar and congrats on your purchase. I like the vintage tuners and the controls on it for a wide range of tones.;)



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Nice find. Leo always said that G&Ls were the best guitars he made.

I hope you find those saddles!

Bill
 
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Thanks!

Saddles arriving shortly- they weren't inexpensive, but I found someone able to let a set go for what I consider an honest price and decent value.
 
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My guitar is back in the (NOS) saddle(s) again, thanks to a very generous person. This is what hen's teeth look like:

Notice how much higher and longer the stock saddle is compared to the DFV saddles; that's why the guitar wouldn't intonate and the action was maxed out. On top of that, the plastic bushing on the locking grub screw had mushroomed due to the incorrect saddles and had to be shaved down a bit. This is a TIGHT bridge, even without the saddle lock tightened.

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F-100 with a vibrato was my first real guitar. Toured with it for a few years. Lots of tone on those things.
 
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This looks plenty used but loved rather than abused. Only thing to do now is too keep up with the tradition :)

Congrats man and Happy New Guitar Day :headbang:
 
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Congrats on both a unique find, and finding something that really excites you!! Sometimes we find inspiration in strange/unexpected places..
 
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Thanks! I got a confirmation from someone with the factory logbook which states this is actually an '83 model and (I already knew) would have been black from the factory.

I'm deliberating over the finish, because I'm unsure if it's only stain over wood, or if there's any sealant; if there isn't then I'll probably get paranoid and want to top-coat it at least. The dilemma is, the guitar has sentimental value appearing as-is, and I really don't want to have the sound impacted by a finish; it's really amazing. At the same time I keep reading opinions of people with un-finished bodies that it may warp/cup (it hasn't yet by my estimation.) I'm just hoping when I have a pro look at it, they'll tell me it's sealed.
 
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So I made quite a few threads waffling over the finish of this guitar. I'll just signal here my commitment to take it back to the original black. It's been 90 - 100 + degrees in SoCal so I can't play a guitar without covering it in sweat. Based on fear of getting soaked this one stays in its case which is not right.

This guitar was the property of a now-deceased person, so despite any sentimental attachment to the existing finish the seventeen year old in me finds it somewhat fitting for it to now be black; sort of like the Rolls Royce and Lotus emblems changed after the founders died. Ordered some reranch oil based grain filler, black & clear nitro. Plan on taking my time.

I refinished a guitar in Duplicolor about ten years ago and it held up pretty well; we'll see what lessons I learn here.
 
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So I made quite a few threads waffling over the finish of this guitar. I'll just signal here my commitment to take it back to the original black. It's been 90 - 100 + degrees in SoCal so I can't play a guitar without covering it in sweat. Based on fear of getting soaked this one stays in its case which is not right.

This guitar was the property of a now-deceased person, so despite any sentimental attachment to the existing finish the seventeen year old in me finds it somewhat fitting for it to now be black; sort of like the Rolls Royce and Lotus emblems changed after the founders died. Ordered some reranch oil based grain filler, black & clear nitro. Plan on taking my time.

I refinished a guitar in Duplicolor about ten years ago and it held up pretty well; we'll see what lessons I learn here.

I'd say you should just stain it black, but I'm definitely interested in seeing how it ends up in all black.
 
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My SC3 is murdered out too. My Dad's ASAT Tribute and a cheap Yamaha of mine are also black/black. Didn't mean for it to become a trend.
 
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For sure! Irony - my Dad built a shop with a spray booth to paint cars, but it's in another state/five hours away from me. So I will use my patio and ban the dogs for a while :P Props to Gabe at Electric Stringed Instruments, who located a copy of the G&L logbook, sold me the saddles (probably the last set he'll let go) and also a bunch of free advice on the original method & materials G&L used for finishing. Sounds like G&L did not use clear above black - however I might anyway.

Can only Google one black F100 with maple neck/non-vibrato, but it has chrome plates (black is later/less common.) My knobs were sprayed black, and the chrome underneath appears poor quality; almost wonder if I should re-chrome or if I really care. Also - turns out later F100s used a different circuit (earlier guitars don't have the bass PTB pot active on the bridge, but mine does.) So that might explain why mine is less of an icepick than others described?

So this is the closest I have to inspiration:

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Decoded: '83 F100 Series I (12" radius) non-vibrato, maple fretboard, black
 
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