my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

everdrone

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PHOTO OF PEDALBOARD IS BELOW...my signal chain is all true bypass:

GUITAR --> gstring decimator noisegate --> tc polytuner --> Alice in Chains Jerry Cantrell Wah --> black arts toneworks pharaoh --> proco rat II


is my signal correct? I know people put dirt before everything, do you think I should put my fuzz before all my pedals, so GUITAR --> black arts toneworks pharaoh ...??? Any insights are appreciated. I know there is more than one way to do things "right" as it is really what sounds good to the listener and that is discretionary/subjective...

you can also see my 3 button changer for my Orange Thunderverb amp that controls my on/off switches for 1) reverb 2) amp channel 3) 'attenuator".

thanks yall :beerchug:

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Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

Your order sounds good - just move the gate to the end of the chain so it cust off any pedal noise.
 
Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

Do you need the ISP? After years of using an ISP I realized it was a waste and I sold it. I haven't used a noise supressor in 6 months and njever will again.....just don't need it, even for high gain. :) One thing I have learned in all these years is I prefer buffered pedals to true bypass. I would rather have a strong signal...and with good pedals I notice no negative impact at all.
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Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

Does it sound good to you? Then, it's correct. :)
 
Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

I'd move the gate to the end of the chain or, even better, in your effects loop
 
Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

Get rid of the gate all together. Other than that, everything looks fine. Dirt should come before wah, but Jimi did fine w/wah before dirt. I have my wah ahead of my dirt & my treble booster, but I installed a FoxRox wah retrofit in my wah to make it fuzz friendly, as I have an old Analogman modded Arbiter FuzzFace right after my wah.
 
Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

everdrone said:
GUITAR --> gstring decimator noisegate --> tc polytuner --> Alice in Chains Jerry Cantrell Wah --> black arts toneworks pharaoh --> proco rat II
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Nice. Love the JC Wah.
Like others have said, the Decimater should go at the end of the chain.

My board suggestion: Polytune --> JC Wah --> *ProCo Deucetone* --> Pharoah --> Thunderverb.
Because 2 Rats are better than 1 Rat and you get switching options for Vintage and Turbo Rat plus you can cascade them.
Yum.
You can find them used on the bay for around $100.
Add two IC sockets and two LM308s and you're golden.
 
Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

The old "dirt wah" or "wah dirt". Both are good. Move the gate to the end.
 
Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

Ditch the noise supressor. I used to have the JC wah but replaced it with a Crybaby 95Q
 
Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

The only time I've needed a noise suppressor is when I run the same power supply to both my loop and up front pedals. Now I have them on their own power supplies and the noise is gone.
 
Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

I'd move the Decimator to craigslist.

Aside from that, it's good.
 
Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

I didn't know the TV had a foot-switchable attenuator. That's kinda cool.

Nice board, dude. Simple and to the point. I like it. Are those the actual settings you use on the Rat? It looks like you're just using it as a boost or something.
 
Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

cool guys, thanks for the awesome feedback, cheers :)
 
Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

Musicians Friend did an article about pedal order, they said there was a huge debate about it but here is the order they said: GUITAR> preamp> compress> dist> wah> chorus> delay> EQ> gate> vol> reverb> AMP.
 
Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

I love my Decimator G String, personally. I was very much against the idea when my bandmate suggested one, but I bit the bullet and have nothing but praise for the thing.

As for all the calls to move it to the end of the signal chain... With this noise gate, that is kind of a waste of it's abilities. If you run a patch cable from GUIT OUT to DEC IN when using effects, you can put all of your effects straight into it, but if you do this you basically reduce the quality of its noise suppression when using effects, and you might as well have just got the regular Decimator for about $100 less.

The Decimator G String works the way it does because it reads your guitar signal, and uses that information to tell it when to apply the noise reduction and when not to. You want that signal that it reads to be totally clean, so the noise-making effects should go in the pedal's loop, not before the pedal's first input (GUIT IN). That means the first input of the noise gate comes first in the chain (or maybe after a tuner, like I do). Then the pedals that you want gated go in the Decimator's loop. Then out of the Decimator to the effects you don't want gated, and from them to the amp.

Running it without any other effects (and this took me a few practices to figure out, because it is not in the instructions), you run your guitar into GUIT IN and out of DEC OUT to the amp. Then you run a jumper cable in the loop (from GUIT OUT to DEC IN). If you don't use the jumper, the pedal simply does nothing.

The third way to use the DGS is to put it in the effects loop of your amp, if it has one. Cable into GUIT IN, cable from GUIT OUT to amp input, cable from line out or FX loop out to DEC IN, and cable from DEC OUT to line in or FX loop in. That places the gate between the pre amp and power amp of your amplifier.
 
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Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

cool brutha, you can see the photo above where the rat is feeding back into the ISP, I forgot to mention my pedals are in the noisegate loop, that is definitely the way to use my pedal, cheers :beerchug:
 
Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

Bfeeney said:
Musicians Friend did an article about pedal order, they said there was a huge debate about it but here is the order they said: GUITAR> preamp> compress> dist> wah> chorus> delay> EQ> gate> vol> reverb> AMP.
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Musicians Friend is wrong. The correct order is what sounds best TO YOU.
 
Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

I've eliminated all pedals except for a Decimator in the loop. All that cabling, power supply and TB & non TB pedal stuff in front of my amps input was having too much negative affect on my signal integrity.
My tone feels livelier and sounds more natural and dynamic. My Decimator isn't gating anything though. Just a slight noise eliminator. It's also transparent when in the loop.
No offense meant, but I cringe a little when I see pedal boards in front of amps.
Just a personal opinion that I have since I recently took the condom off my tone.
 
Re: my pedalboard is 'complete'! yay :-) ...but is my signal chain correct?

i'm surprised so many people like their wah pedal in front of the OD/distortion.
 
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