NAD: Mesa Mark 3 Blue Stripe with Simul-Class

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Just picked up this Mesa Mark 3! Sounds unbelievable for everything, I hear reviews saying it's not good for modern stuff, I have no idea what they are going on about!

I primarily play modern metal and a little more old school death metal and it slays for all of it, the cleans are nice to boot!

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Fits in well with my Mesa 50 Caliber + and Marshall 1959SLP!
 
Re: NAD: Mesa Mark 3 Blue Stripe with Simul-Class

That's a mean looking graphic EQ setting there. :D

Congrats on the new amp!
 
Re: NAD: Mesa Mark 3 Blue Stripe with Simul-Class

That's a mean looking graphic EQ setting there. :D

Congrats on the new amp!

it's been slightly altered since haha, didn't have time to mess with settings before taking these, wanted to get this out of the way then go away for a few hours :P
 
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I keep telling guys that Mark IIIs are great amps! If you're playing in a classic rock, blues, country or even metal band...out there doing some gigs in clubs...it is a great amp. A used Mark III will cost you less than a lot of the crap sold new. They're well-built and reliable. And they can scream, or you can go quiet with the 15-watt Class A setting of the Simul-Class feature. I like the 112 EVM combos, and use mine with a 112 EVM Thiele cab for a portable, versatile, mini-stack. This is my red-stripe version; my blue-stripe combo has Celestion 100 in it and its Thiele has a JBL E-120. The snarl of the Celestion with the smooth mids of the JBL is another great combination. And the 200-watt Coliseum head and 412 Half-Back cab is the most glorious sounding of all.

Congrats on the new amp!

Bill
 
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What revision? The red stripes are the best sounding out of the box imho, nearly identical to the c+ spec, except for the presence circuit. The blue and green are a little raspy and bright as is but sound awesome once you make a few changes. I've had a few in shop for repair and c+ conversion and although they are a ***** to work on, getting under the board is difficult, they are very under appreciated and can be had at great prices and sound every bit as good as their more expensive brothers. And yeah they are pretty much made for metal.
 
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Re: NAD: Mesa Mark 3 Blue Stripe with Simul-Class

What revision? The red stripes are the best sounding out of the box imho, nearly identical to the c+ spec, except for the presence circuit. The blue and green are a little raspy and bright as is but sound awesome once you make a few changes. I've had a few in shop for repair and c+ conversion and although they are a ***** to work on, getting under the board is difficult, they are very under appreciated and can be had at great prices and sound every bit as good as their more expensive brothers. And yeah they are pretty much made for metal.

Blue Stripe, as said. This sounds great! I love it!
 
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Blue Stripe, as said. This sounds great! I love it!

I found a sh1tty clip I did on my cell phone of the last simulclass Blue stripe I had in. As evident, it has plenty of gain and the voice for metal, and thats after I C+'d it, which even smooths out the blue/green revision a little.

https://soundcloud.com/joeyvoltage/mkiii

If I were to ever buy a mesa, it would be a III
 
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The mkv is a bit different. It looked like Mesa took some liberties and changed things around just a tad. I personally have never played one so I can't compare other than what the topology looks like on paper. I heard a lot of people were disappointed with the ii c+ mode, because it was blue printed from an oddball c+ they did, and not the more famous typical petrucci/Metallica variety most were expecting. The demos of the mkv/25 sound really good, for such a smal 25w el84 sh1tbox.
 
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I have IIIs, a IV combo, a Mark V combo, a V:35 combo and the V:25 mini-stack with the 112 Recto straight and slant cabs. They are all great amps and all a bit different.

The Mark II-C+ mode on the big amp is flat-out gorgeous. Yes, they made some simplification in the gain controls, but more importantly...you can choose whether to use the sound of the amps with the Graphic EQ, or the amps without it. There are some real differences in the way those amps respond. Doug West goes into great detail about this in the Owner's Manual. The change between settings is immediately noticeable. West is a strong proponent of the non-EQ version. I've only played the EQ version, and their reputation as a "Holy Grail" amp is well deserved, imo.

Mesa says the Mark V is like nine amps in one, with the three modes in each channel. But then you have the option of three different power levels, and then EQ on or off. And you can use 6L6s, EL34s or 6V6s! This is the most versatile amp around. I can't imagine a gig that you couldn't use this amp on.

It is complicated, and I'd STRONGLY suggest that you take a read through the Owner's Manual BEFORE you sit down to demo it. Evenso, I had great, usable tones on all three channels in less than five minutes. The hard part isn't finding a great tone, but figuring out which of the great tones you want to use. Once I decided on my basic settings, using it on a gig was easy...even with my multiple guitars and a wide-range of genres.

The V:25 and V:35 have only two channels, and use EL84s instead of the big bottles. Unlike my DC-3 and my Maverick that use '84s and SOUND like EL84 amps, the little Mark Vs sound closer to the big Mark V...more like a big bottle amp. It's a little weird to compare them, but really neat. The V:25 head is the ultimate mini-head. This is a totally professional amp.

I don't have the Petrucci, but I have played it. It will breathe fire as I expected, but I was blown away by the clean tones, and the low- to mid-gain tones. It struck me as being a fantastic blues amp, and you could use one LEAD channel for your Strat and the other for your LP or 335. Loved it!

The big thing about the Mark V is the controllability of the CRUNCH channel. The IV improved R2 over the III, but you could do a whole album on just the CRUNCH channel of the V.

I like them all. I bought my first Mark III around 1994, and have stuck with them ever since. Which one is my favorite? Why, the one I'm playing of course!

Bill
 
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Oh I love the MK V, I've played several models and loved it every time
 
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Awesome amp!

Those reviewers must not have noticed that 5-Way Eq...that can totally transform the tone.
 
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Congrats on the amp! I just got the same amp, but a head instead. Such a killer amp! As far as power tubes go, do you guys like using all 6L6s or using the 6L6/EL34 combo. These are such authoritative amps. I can't believe it took me this long to get one.

Cole
 
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Too bad you couldnt' a gt a MKIV, oh well, guess its better than nothing.
 
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Congrats on the amp! I just got the same amp, but a head instead. Such a killer amp! As far as power tubes go, do you guys like using all 6L6s or using the 6L6/EL34 combo. These are such authoritative amps. I can't believe it took me this long to get one.

Cole

Congrats on the Mark III head. Regarding tubes, I like using EL34s in the Simul-Class sockets in both my Mark III combos and in my Mark IV...and I wish they would have continued this in the Mark V. It's setup for either all 6L6s or all EL34s or all 6V6s.

My tube of choice was the Winged C/S.E.D. tubes, but now they are hard to find and expensive. If I had to retube one tomorrow, I'm not sure what I'd use...probably just Mesas or The Tube Store's Preferred Series. The EL34s sound great in the Class A mode, especially when pushed a bit. It's neither British or American, it's just different. I have a variety of preamp tubes; I bought several different brands and rotated them in and out of each socket until I found a combination I liked.



Too bad you couldnt' a gt a MKIV, oh well, guess its better than nothing.

It amazes me that more guys don't hunt down IIIs to gig with. I've gigged with all of my Mesa amps. Each Generation offers a few more features. The III in comparison is simple; I pretty much set mine with the settings in the manual and go, and I'm getting great tone whether it's one of my G&Ls, Gibsons, Ibanez, or one of the cheapo DanElectro 12-strings. On most of my gigs we're doing a wide range of music, and I might have as many as four electrics with me: G&L Legacy, another G&L with hotter pickups, a 2HB Gibson or Ibanez, and the aforementioned DanElectro.

The IV isn't necessarily a better amp...for playing live. But those extra controls and switches make for a great studio amp. However, if you are willing to learn where the altimeter is and which lever to pull for a shot of espresso, you can use it live. The big changes from the III are a broader range of power levels, more control over R2 gain and tone, the TWEED power setting for a more spongey, saggy feel, and the ability to use 6V6 tubes. My IV is an A model with the EVM speaker, and with its matching 112 EVM Thiele cab, I have never felt out-gunned. Or for that matter, over-amped for when I need to play quietly.

These are the amps that gave me the tone, the features, the quality, the flexibility I'd been searching for...for years! And when I found it, I gave up my vintage Fenders, Peaveys and Marshalls, and parked my SUNN in the garage. Being truly happy with my tone is just a great feeling...priceless. I don't really have a favorite...I feel confident playing any one of them, and I'll have a big smile on my face while I'm doing it!

What's "too bad" is the guys that spend their whole lives looking for that tone, buying amp after amp (most of them crap), and never being satisfied. Too bad, indeed.

I don't feel like the IV, or the V for that matter, is necessarily "better" than the III. They are different. The "BEST" one though, is the one that inspires you, makes you a better player...and puts that ecstatic smile on display!

Bill
 
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