NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

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Took a chance on this Mesa amp a guy was selling. He said that the clean channel was fine, but the lead channel had very low volume. He thought it might be a bad tube, but he didn't know. I thought it would be a bad tube also and bought it. I got it in today and tried it and the lead channel didn't have hardly any volume or gain. I changed all the pre amp tubes and nothing changed, so it wasn't a bad tube.

Turns out it was just dirty pots. After rotating all the pots for the lead channel back and forth a bunch it works just fine. I can't believe the deal I got...it works perfectly fine. Lol!!!

Can't find a whole lot about these amps, so if anyone has any info please help.

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Re: NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

Nice.

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Re: NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

That particular amp is an early DC-2. Boogie Bill is a fan if I remember correctly.
 
Re: NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

I had a DC-5 combo which was a really nice sounding amp. I brought it out as backline when doing production for a fly-in gig and the guy that used it bought it off of me... my old DC-5 now belongs to a guitarist who works for a rock star.

Those amps to me sound just as good as Mesa's more expensive offerings but without all the extra clutter.
 
Re: NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

I wish I knew more about it, like what the stock speaker is. There's no sticker on the back. Initial playing on the amp makes it seem like it's a very dark voiced speaker, but that may change when I get a chance to really turn the amp up and push the speaker. I am taking it to a local tech Wednesday just to get it all checked out and make sure it's good.
 
Re: NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

As dystrust posted, it is an early DC-2 Studio Caliber. The early amps in this series came in a gray vinyl. It zhould have a date written on the chassis. It's the baby of the Dual Caliber series family at 22 watts (2xEL84), followed by the DC-3 at 35 watts (4xEL84), DC-5 at 50 watts (2x6L6), and the DC-10 at 100 watts (4x6L6). I think all of these amps came as combos (112) and heads; the DC-10 combo was a 212. The DC-10 is a monster and the combo weighs a ton!

I think (not 100% sure) that the DC-2 came with a Mesa Black Shadow Vintage 50 speaker, that I think (again) was made by Jensen. My DC-3 has a Celestion V30. The -10 probably came with a pair of Celestion C-90s, and the -5 with a single C-90. The Vintage 50 is a good speaker, but they are not used abundantly.

My DC-3 112 combo uses Mesa's "Dyna-Watt" power, Class AB. It sounds more like a 50 watt amp and is very dynamic. I like to use mine with a Mesa 112 EVM Thiele cab underneath. The Thiele adds a lot of bottom end punch and projection. It is a nicely portable rig with a small footprint, yet it can hang with loud drummers and bigger amps.

At 22 watts, the DC-2 should be able to hang with a drummer, especially with an extension cab like the Thiele or even a 112 open-back. Plug into a 412 and crank it...and then wait for the neighbors to call the cops! Or mic it thru the PA.

The clean channel of these amps was reportedly based on the Mark IV's clean channel, and comparing my DC-3 to my Mark IV, they are indeed close. The lead channel is said to be based on the original Dual Recto's business channel, and my amp has lots of gain available; I rarely run my Lead Gain above 7.

The DC-2 isn't a cheap practice amp...it has a full set of features. The one thing it's missing though, is the Mesa Graphic EQ. I use the EQs on my Mesa amps to tailor the Lead Channel tone. But there are independent gains and masters and tone controls for each channel, so there's still a lot of versatility as it is.

You can't go wrong with Mesa Tubes in these amps. You may want to use the Mesa SP12AX7 in V1 for it's resistance to microphonics. I found that a full set of JJ preamp tubes made the overall tone too dark. My DC-3 currently has E-H, JJ, Mesa and a Groove Tube in it, each tube sonically selected for a particular socket. I'm currently running a set of JJ EL84s power tubes from Eurotubes (just down the road from me); Bob selected a set to match Mesa specs.

It is a good idea to get it checked out by a tech. You need to download the Owner's Manual from www.mesaboogie.com and read it thoroughly. Twice. It will really help you understand your amp. If you have other questions, let me know. Better yet, don't be shy...call the Mesa Customer Service line. They can help, and they almost certainly have replacement parts available...knobs, pots, etc. They can tell you about the speaker, too. (Closed on Fridays.)

Great score--I love the DC Series amps. You can really hear the difference in the power tubes as you compare the amps...very cool. (Don't expect your EL84s to sound like 6L6s!) Vive la difference! With the EL-84s you wont get the glassy, open top end or the deep bottom of 6L6s. You'll get a nicely rounded, fat tone known as "chime", especially when they start getting pushed. And these amps led to the Nomads, the F-Series, and later...the Express 5:25. Good stuff!

Color me green with envy...this is a great find. I hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoy my Mesas.

Bill
 
Re: NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

Thanks for all the info Bill. I'm trying to find something that tells me for sure which pre-amp tube is V1, V2, etc... and it's hard to find info on these amps. I believe it's from 1995 and other than one small scuff on a corner of the tolex I really can't see anything wrong with the amp. I think the previous owner never used the lead channel much which led to the problem with the dirty pots causing the low volume. I do think I will plan on changing the speaker and go for something possibly more british voiced like an Eminence CV75. I've got one in a cab that I'll hook the amp up to and see how it sounds. I also plan to try it out with a Tonker and WGS Liberator 80 that I have at the house.

I can already tell that even though it's 22 watts it's very loud. I couldn't hardly turn up the master volume at home. My other main tube amp is a Traynor YCS50 that I always run on the 15 watt setting and it's always been more than enough for the places I play.
 
Re: NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

I'm not doubting the info, but the two tubes I see look like bigger bottles than EL84's. Is it just me?
 
Re: NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

They are EL84 tubes. The base of them look bigger because they are a Mesa tube of some sort, but they are EL84 tubes.
 
Re: NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

Well, actually the bottle itself looks bigger ... to me. But could be the label throwing off my perspective. It doesn't take much these days.
 
Re: NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

I second what Boogie Bill says (especially about the 5 way EQ, only thing I would knock the DC-2 over.) I had a DC-5 and wish I never got rid of that amp. These are very versatile and are definitely not practice amps. Nice score and enjoy!
 
Re: NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

Got home and tried to check the amp out more and the lead channel is still messed up. I'm taking it to an amp tech tomorrow anyways, so he'll figure out what's going on. The clean channel is beautiful tho.
 
Re: NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

Like I said, the EL84s in the Mesa wil be naturally darker than the 5881s in your Traynor. It was kind of an acquired taste for me, a long-time 6L6 user. When I first got my DC-3, my roadie was just ecstatic over the the tone, much preferring it over my big Mark III...which I think is a glorious sounding, muscular, American sounding amp. The DC-3 just sounded muffled to me, even with the V30. But it just had this beautiful creaminess. Over the years, I have gotten many positive comments about the tone of this amp, from band members, jammers, girlfriends and soundmen. But it did take time for my ears to adjust, and it was worth it.

You didn't say what pre-amp tubes you used, but it will make a difference. Like I said, JJs made my DC-3 very dark. Try some Mesa tubes in V1-3, or some Electro-Harmonix for some additional brightness. There should be a tube function chart in the Owner's Manual, and there's a little plaque inside the cabinet. If you can't find it there, look up the DC-3 manual--it will be similar. Or call Mesa and they can clue you in.

Bill
 
Re: NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

I've had amps before with el84 tubes, so that's not an issue. I didn't get any manuals or paperwork with the amp, so I don't know which preamp tube is which or what they do. I'll probably contact mesa after I get the amp fixed.
 
Re: NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

I've had amps before with el84 tubes, so that's not an issue. I didn't get any manuals or paperwork with the amp, so I don't know which preamp tube is which or what they do. I'll probably contact mesa after I get the amp fixed.

Mesa has just about all of their manauls posted online. The manual for the DC-2 is here.
 
Re: NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

+1 on reading the manual. Mesa manuals are full of all kinds of neat tricks and things to help make sense of their amps.
 
Re: NAD... One heck of a deal on a Mesa Studio Caliber

I've downloaded the manual and it helped, but there's still nothing on the tube layout and which is V1, V2, etc... so I'll have to contact Mesa. Taking the amp in today to have it gone through and figure out what the problem is with the lead channel.

On a good note...I've made a deal and am getting a "mint" Mesa Recto-Verb 25 combo this evening at an amazing price. SCORE!!! :)
 
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