NAD Peavey 6505

[MetalManiac]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

Start with a set of ear plugs, preconceive the notion of ignoring any neighbors, set the pre-gain to "0", set the post-gain to "11", EQ with B/M/T/P at ~4/10/~6.5/1, and slowly work the pre-gain up to taste. That'd be my approach.

As for cleans, I think they're very passable. Not an AC30 by any means, but they work.

...Now give me one of your Marshalls. I'm on a HUGE Judas Priest kick.

I might just do that.:bigok:
Heres where got me my BRootalz fixz with the 6505.. Set on 'Lead Channel'. 'Pre Gain' at 2. 'Low' at almost 8....'Mid' at 2.5... 'High' at almost 3. 'Lead Post Gain' at a little over 4..BUT heres the kicker;
I was really bumed out about this amp being all Brutal and stuff till i discovered THIS knob- teh "RESONANCE" knob.
With 'Presence' just a bit over 5, I turned that 'RESONANCE' up to almost 7, and oh heLL yes..that was a "high Gain " tone for sure, like I've never heard. Thunderous earth moving lows and grinding mids and piercing highs.
Yeah..this will do, at least for now.TOTO..WE'RE NOT IN KANSAS ANYMORE! lolz.

 

[hydro]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

Man that is an awesome deal!! congrats!

I would have bought it too, and I already have too many amps.

From what I saw, I liked the control layout on the plain 6505 better than the plus version but I haven't played through either.

There is something reassuring in knowing that you can still find a quality US made skull thumper for a decent price.

 

[MetalManiac]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

After further review..th amp is engaging. Its "fun" tpo play, because like all excellent amps, it involves the player as a dynamic part of the amp and guitar.
I'm so used to the 'ol JCM800..and listening to its "beuatiful", "glorious" "tone", but frankly, the 6505, though not as fabulous a tone, is is ultimately a lot of fun that the JCM800 doesnt get directly.

I went crazy with this high gain stuff;Its not in tune and I messed up, but it gets that high gain ;

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

I feel like I should troll you with a Metal Maniac type post, like "nice $300 Peavey, ya got there. One day you'll get past beginner highgain amps." :laugh2:

But seriously, finding bargains on good amps is always fun. I've been digging into my $1100 Egnater Vengeance I scored for $350. It's in the same category as the 6505, and surprisingly more fun to play than a lot of expensive amps.

This is a point I know you know, which is why you'll see me get happy over cheap sh1t sometimes, discovering that it's actually pretty damm good. I like seeing you discover this too, because I know you love the gear snob talk for fun, but have a side that knows there's a lot of cool cheap stuff.

 

[LatsMcGee]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

I had the 6505+ and I loved it, got the best tones out of it pushing it with a TS style OD,

Only reason I got rid of the 6505+ was it was way too loud for my small home, I may be moving soon to a larger house with no neighbors for about a mile, I'm thinking I may buy one again than.....

 

[DeadandBuried]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

I have the 6505+ and the lead channel is beastly! Tighten it up a bit with a TS9 in front just to give it more mids and shizz, sounds peng!

Don't dime your mids if you want to be heard on stage, and go easy on the bass. Around 5/6/7 will do nicely. For the drop tuned chugga stuff I find if you keep an even keel of EQ around 6/7 its just right, though I haven't had this new amp for long so I'm still kinda experimenting, I use that setting live and it sounds pretty good.

Also you'll have a really noisy lead channel so either get an ISP decimator or have it modded so its quiet. Essential for stop/start riffing!

As for the footswitch I don't think you can use a Marshall one cos the input jacks are different sizes and so is the plug.

 

[CTN]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

As for the footswitch I don't think you can use a Marshall one cos the input jacks are different sizes and so is the plug.

nah, the 6505+ uses a 7-pin DIN arrangement for the footswitching connections.

The 6505 uses a normal 1/4" TRS connection (same as most marshalls)

 

[jon the art guy]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

I'm not particularly discerning on hi gain leads since a jcm800 kind of maxes out usable gain for a solo that isn't just compressed and controlled synth tone. 6505 is epitome of rhythm metal tone though. ChungechungeCHOOMCHOOM

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[vinta9e]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

Well, Ive heard it said the Rectos were great in their day, but are obsolete now..IDK. We all need Rectos, if for nothing else than analysis.

Rectos feel sluggish, choppy and stiff to my picking hand; I can't really say I'm the biggest fan around. Yet these amps do that 'wall of sound' thing quite unlike any other (well the Bogner Uberschall... is a different flavor). Honestly, I wouldn't call them "obsolete" but "out of fashion", and that's because they used to be practically ubiquitous for about a decade. Rectos were "the" amps for hard & heavy tones during the 1990s and early 2000s but it seems their roar wore out people's ears.

5150s are different beasts. They track really fast and feel fluid and forgiving. If I were to point to an amp that made me able to play faster, this is it. The amp is voiced with a lot of bite in the upper mids - and that is where the guitar articulates itself in a band mix. Please note that these are also the frequencies that human ears are most sensitive to, and that explains why the amp is so loud. It is not the most powerful current pump of an amp, able to deliver a kick of low frequency rumble that makes many 4x12s sound like they are about to explode, but it is acoustically efficient.

Now what about the 6505 with the 'Marshally' mids?

It's the bite.

Dynamic?

Nope. Very compressed.

Thick, Organic and Dimensional? .. .

I don't think so. Raw, cutting and sustaining is what I'd call it. Perhaps aggressive is the best word to describe it, though not particularly precise.

"Juicy"?

Yes, definitely juicy.

A Poor mans Splawn?

Not really. I believe the 5150 came earlier than any of Scott Splawn's own amps.

"Soldano on crack" would be my best description. It has that sustain that won't quit, but it's mean, eager to bite your head off but easier to please, too.

 

[SirJackdeFuzz]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

HAPPY NEW AMP DAY to you mate.


LOVE my older block letter 5150.

It is seen the world over as the 'poor-mans-go-to-metal-amp' . . . but for me, it is a Classic Rock Tone MONSTER !

Yes, they can do metal well . . . but they are true sleepers when it comes to Classic Rock tones.

 

[SirJackdeFuzz]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

I dunno man, I've never been able to get into the recto sound. To my ears, Rectos sound like a big messy fecal splat with flies buzzing around. Too fat in the lows, absolutely nothing tasty in the mids, and just harsh buzzing everywhere else. They're not obsolete - a lot of people find a use for them, and I do have to admit, somehow, they sound really good if you play really simple stuff and just need a big heavy low end without much articulation, but I rarely if ever do that. I just tend to gravitate towards the family of marshall-voiced high gain sounds. Thick, crunchy, crispy, plents of mids. And the 6505 definitely has that.

The organic/dimensional/juicy parts... that'll vary from amp to amp, and Splawns and most classic Marshalls (800s, TSLs) have perhaps a bit more of than than a 6505 or a JVM, but it's definitely in a similar family in terms of voicing.

I do believe that the 5150 family is descended from the Soldano circuit, which itself has some heritage drawn from modified Marshalls. So you're still in the same sorta family, but in a more modern, higher gain arena.

I always thought that the 5150 is THE 'poor-mans-SLO'.

Just listen to the cruncg that Black Stone Cherry gets with their 6505+'s on the YouTube clip, covering Muddy Waters (live in Bonn, Germany).

I bought my 5150 almost exclusively based on their (BSC) tone.

I also got (last week) a Radial Twin City pedal so that i can now run my 5150 / Thunderverb 50 in one massive wall of tone.

Can not wait to see how they compliment one another.

 

[CTN]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

lol ehh.. If you've ever played a real soldano, you'd see the huge difference between the 5150s and the soldanos. Common heritage for sure, but the soldanos are way more refined, you can hear more pedigree in its sound.

If the soldano designs are 100% majestic timberwolf - refined, elegant, but also vicious, lethal beasts,

then the 5150s are like snarling half-wolf, half-rottweiler mutts. Mind you, that's a great mix of mutt heritage, but mutt nonetheless

I'd say the poor man's SLO is a Soldano Hot Rod or Avenger. The poor man's Hot Rod or Avenger is the Jet City JCA100H/50H/100HDM. The 5150 is like the 1st cousin of the Hot Rod.

 

[MetalManiac]

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If the soldano designs are 100% majestic timberwolf - refined, elegant, but also vicious, lethal beasts,

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Dang it..I think a Soldano has been eating the sheep.

 

[King IzzO)))]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

The longer I go without one the more it becomes my favorite sound.

 

[SirJackdeFuzz]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

lol ehh.. If you've ever played a real soldano, you'd see the huge difference between the 5150s and the soldanos. Common heritage for sure, but the soldanos are way more refined, you can hear more pedigree in its sound.

If the soldano designs are 100% majestic timberwolf - refined, elegant, but also vicious, lethal beasts,

then the 5150s are like snarling half-wolf, half-rottweiler mutts. Mind you, that's a great mix of mutt heritage, but mutt nonetheless

I'd say the poor man's SLO is a Soldano Hot Rod or Avenger. The poor man's Hot Rod or Avenger is the Jet City JCA100H/50H/100HDM. The 5150 is like the 1st cousin of the Hot Rod.

OK, thanks for the clarification.

 

[BloodRose]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

WOW!! AMAZING SCORE!! Id love to have one of those, just for that greasy, chewy, beefy sound.. congrats! what a deal!

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

Someone mentioned that the regular models sound better than the + models. I tend to agree, because the plus models sound overly hyped in the gain dept. The clean channel gains up too quickly, and the gain channel is over the top. I think the 5150 and 6505 are the more desirable ones to go after.

 

[LatsMcGee]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

Someone mentioned that the regular models sound better than the + models. I tend to agree, because the plus models sound overly hyped in the gain dept. The clean channel gains up too quickly, and the gain channel is over the top. I think the 5150 and 6505 are the more desirable ones to go after.

A tube swap in plus models fixes that "so much gain my ass itches" issue....

 

[jmh151]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

On any 5150- whether it's 5150, 6505, 5150 II, 6505+, EVH 5150 III, EVH 5150 III 50 watt, everyone says a good starting point is the "666 setting- BMT all at 6 then adjust the gain, presence and resonance

 

[Mrkensei]

Re: NAD Peavey 6505

I love my 5150II. Settings wise I do the following for a cutting metal tone.

Gain 6
Low 6
Mid 4.5
Treble 7-8

Prescence about 4 and resonance tuned to whatever cab I choose.

Thats on the lead channel, I dont use the other one unless its for cleans, and i boost the mids and drop the treble for cleans.

Thats with my Nazgul/Sentient set. Very high output but a lot of string definition. You might need more mids depending on your guitar.