Need Advice regarding "GARY MOORE" TONE

[Lewguitar]

Re: Need Advice regarding "GARY MOORE" TONE

Greeny is one of the greatest. Such a sensitive player, who is very big in manipulating the volume of the particular notes he plays. That definitely gives him another dimension in which he expresses himself.

Fleetwood mac has a box set of their early recordings, 6 of them I think. And in that box set they have lots of versions of the songs they recorded for each of the albums (including the album-takes as well). Listening them told me that the guys simply plays with his heart. He hardly played the same way twice! And all is good.

I know that lotsa fellas here don't favor his outa phase tone, but I love it. Especially that on need your love so bad, gives me the chills.

B

That "gives me the chills" thing seems to be a commen feeling among all PG fans! :laugh2: Me too! But you either get it or you don't. I guess we get it.

Lew

 

[badco33]

Re: Need Advice regarding "GARY MOORE" TONE

I'm a huge Peter Green fan as well. I love his tone, style and licks but just as impressive is his voice. Man that guy could sing the blues. Lot's of passion in his playing and singing. You always get the feeling that he isn't just going through the motions but is feeling every note and every lyric in the song.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Need Advice regarding "GARY MOORE" TONE

I'm a huge Peter Green fan as well. I love his tone, style and licks but just as impressive is his voice. Man that guy could sing the blues. Lot's of passion in his playing and singing. You always get the feeling that he isn't just going through the motions but is feeling every note and every lyric in the song.

Yep. I totally agree. And although he may not play guitar the same way he did 30 years ago, his singing is still very expressive. Lew

 

[Jeffrec]

Re: Need Advice regarding "GARY MOORE" TONE

Hard to say. When I listen to Peter Green with John Mayall and Fleetwood Mac (that's Peter's old Les Paul that Gary plays) sometimes his tone sounds like a Duncan 59 to me. Kind of clean and bright and not so midrangey and woody as alnico 2.

When Gary Moore plays he uses alot of overdrive and Peter's old Les Paul sounds alot fatter and thicker than when Peter had it, and a little more like they might be alnico 2 pafs!

I think I'd go for either some alnico 5 Duncan 59's or some alnico 2 Pearly Gates. The PG's are based on the pickups in Billy Gibbons old Les Paul which was made within a year of Peter Green's/Gary Moore's. The PG's are alnico 2 pafs but they are wound to be a little brighter and more harmonically alive than most alnico 2 humbuckers.

The Antiquitys, which are built to replicate the sound of a 50 year old '58 paf would also be agreat choice. Especially if the dealer was willing to go through thier supply and pick you out some hotter ones.

Oh: welcome to the forum!

Lew

Very nice Lew. I think Gary gets a brighter tone than Peter got, due to differences in hands and equipment. So for Gary's tonr I would use a PG or possibly a '59 or seth. The Ants can do the Greenie thing just fine.

Jeff

 

[gripweed]

Re: Need Advice regarding "GARY MOORE" TONE

Love it! I've got all the old John Mayall and Fleetwood Mac stuff on vinyl.

I also have a live version of that tune recorded by Fleetwood Mac in Boston 35 years ago or so. It's a cool version too. Peter introduces it by saying something like: "Here's one about the devil..." :saeek:

I saw Peter do that tune a couple of years ago live at the Boulder Theater. THAT was a cool show! A double bill with Peter Green and the Splinter Group and John Mayall with Buddy Whittington on guitar.

Peter's playing is a little more tentative than it used to be and he's obviously a little fragile, but when he sang Green Manalishi it gave me chills. Sounded exactly like I remembered it.

They did a very respectable version of it live.

Buddy Whittington is a great player too -- great tones! I saw him in Detroit -- it must have been the same tour 'cuz he was with Peter Green. We met him after the show. What a super nice guy!

I agree with your assessment of Peter, he still has that voice! He's very humble. We had a long talk with him after the show and he was very cool. If you can go see him do it!

 

[Jeffrec]

Re: Need Advice regarding "GARY MOORE" TONE

Buddy Whittington is a great player too -- great tones! I saw him in Detroit -- it must have been the same tour 'cuz he was with Peter Green. We met him after the show. What a super nice guy!

I agree with your assessment of Peter, he still has that voice! He's very humble. We had a long talk with him after the show and he was very cool. If you can go see him do it!

You are one lucky guy to have met Grennie! Kudos.

I met Buddy after a Mayall show and he was terrific as you said (Mayall was a turd). Saw Peter in NYC at Tramps, a few years ago. Still wonderful after all these years and alll the crap (mental illness) he's been through.

Jeff

 

[Old Ghost]

Re: Need Advice regarding "GARY MOORE" TONE

SD custom shop actually sells the "Peter Green Humbuckers" neck and bridge position. Here's the link:
http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/products/customshop.shtml

 

[Skarekrough]

Re: Need Advice regarding "GARY MOORE" TONE

A few weeks ago I had a spare Les Paul (I know....nice problem to have) and a set of Duncans (59' neck and JB bridge) kicking around. I did the magnet swap on the 59' and installed them.

It got close....but not enough to make it worthwhile. To my ears those two pickups were WAY too hot to get that sound.

To my ears those tones almost sound like a real throaty P-90; they have that snap to them in the middle position that's just Sonic Godliness to me. I know the obvious physics of it, but if I were to commit to doing it then I wouldn't mess around with anything other than the SD Peter Green Custom Wounds.