Need Floyd advice
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The saddle-adjustment screw-head should round well before the screw's or saddle's threading would strip-out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,IMO.
Over-tightening shouldn't be a problem if it's not even currently tight enough to hold the saddle in place,,,,,,,,,,,,,again just IMO.
Is it a made-in-germany OFR?
The saddle-adjustment screw-head should round well before the screw's or saddle's threading would strip-out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,IMO.
Over-tightening shouldn't be a problem if it's not even currently tight enough to hold the saddle in place,,,,,,,,,,,,,again just IMO.
Is it a made-in-germany OFR?
Thundermtn
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Is the area under the screw head clean and dry?
Is the area under the screw head clean and dry?
Chris Pile
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Sometimes the little block will split from over-tightening, and that could be the problem. Pull it out, and eyeball it.
Sometimes the little block will split from over-tightening, and that could be the problem. Pull it out, and eyeball it.
Ayrton
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The base plate is steel, so the screw would strip first. That being said, with a OFR that old, it would be a good idea to replace all the blocks and saddles screws.
Also check that the finish has not bubbled under the saddles.
https://floydrose.com/collections/parts/products/froslibp
https://floydrose.com/collections/parts/products/frosmsbp
The base plate is steel, so the screw would strip first. That being said, with a OFR that old, it would be a good idea to replace all the blocks and saddles screws.
Also check that the finish has not bubbled under the saddles.
https://floydrose.com/collections/parts/products/froslibp
https://floydrose.com/collections/parts/products/frosmsbp
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He said the whole saddle was slipping, not the string slipping.
He said the whole saddle was slipping, not the string slipping.
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http://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and...oyd_Rose_Original_Saddle_Mounting_Screws.html
Paying shipping would suck though,,,,,,surely Europe has a dealer.
Ibanez edge-pro has little O-rings between the screw and the saddle, but the OFR goes bareback. lol
http://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and...oyd_Rose_Original_Saddle_Mounting_Screws.html
Paying shipping would suck though,,,,,,surely Europe has a dealer.
Ibanez edge-pro has little O-rings between the screw and the saddle, but the OFR goes bareback. lol
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Coma
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Will try to pull it all apart tomorrow and see if I can suss anything out. Hopefully, one of the more helpful local shops might be willing to help me with parts. I've had some good experiences dealing with Schaller directly before, but that was for something bigger than just a few screws. Will report back once results are in.
EDIT: Had a small window while waiting for computer to do some rendering work. Decided to open the Floyd up. First off, it's not an OFR, turns out I had gotten two bridges mixed up. Must've been more tired than I realised last night. It's an 80's Floyd, but a Schaller built (witht he thick base plate) and Jackson branded unit. As I was fiddling with it, another saddle popped loose. So I fully removed them both, and lo and behold, the finish underneath them wasn't flush. The edges around the screw hole had risen a bit. Overall the blaack coiting seems very sturdy, so could possibly be screws not being tightened enough and then tugging on upper layers of threads, causing them to bend outwards? Just a shot in the dark.
Used a tiny diamond file bring them back down to level with the base plate. Will slap on new strings when I have a chance and see if they stay put from here on out.
Will try to pull it all apart tomorrow and see if I can suss anything out. Hopefully, one of the more helpful local shops might be willing to help me with parts. I've had some good experiences dealing with Schaller directly before, but that was for something bigger than just a few screws. Will report back once results are in.
EDIT: Had a small window while waiting for computer to do some rendering work. Decided to open the Floyd up. First off, it's not an OFR, turns out I had gotten two bridges mixed up. Must've been more tired than I realised last night. It's an 80's Floyd, but a Schaller built (witht he thick base plate) and Jackson branded unit. As I was fiddling with it, another saddle popped loose. So I fully removed them both, and lo and behold, the finish underneath them wasn't flush. The edges around the screw hole had risen a bit. Overall the blaack coiting seems very sturdy, so could possibly be screws not being tightened enough and then tugging on upper layers of threads, causing them to bend outwards? Just a shot in the dark.
Used a tiny diamond file bring them back down to level with the base plate. Will slap on new strings when I have a chance and see if they stay put from here on out.
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Kamanda~SD
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Sounds like a good start to the troubleshooting.
I'm just gunna mention here for anyone else that over-tightening anything on these is a bad idea.
Also, if you have a good fasteners store around you can usually get things like the 'saddle mounting screws' in a box of 100 for the price of what anyone sells two sets of them for.
Sounds like a good start to the troubleshooting.
I'm just gunna mention here for anyone else that over-tightening anything on these is a bad idea.
Also, if you have a good fasteners store around you can usually get things like the 'saddle mounting screws' in a box of 100 for the price of what anyone sells two sets of them for.
Jacew
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Didn't Ascension recently bashed these thick plate Schallers to be complete junk?
Apparently they're made from some too soft metal to hold together.
I'm not sure if it's worth it fixing, if that's correct.
EDIT: Here is that thread I recalled: https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?325566-Floyd-rose-special-for-shaller&highlight=floyd
Didn't Ascension recently bashed these thick plate Schallers to be complete junk?
Apparently they're made from some too soft metal to hold together.
I'm not sure if it's worth it fixing, if that's correct.
EDIT: Here is that thread I recalled: https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?325566-Floyd-rose-special-for-shaller&highlight=floyd
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Coma
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He did, and I respectfully disagree. Guitar was built in 1989 and that's still the original tremolo on there. I would not consider anything that holds up fine for 29 years to be rubbish. I have had other issues with it but I'm willing to chalk that up to a combination of design flaws inherent in the system as well as said old age. With that in mind, if the thing ever truly wears out, I'll just have to suck it up and get a new Floyd.
Agreed. Its well worth putting some time into searching.
He did, and I respectfully disagree. Guitar was built in 1989 and that's still the original tremolo on there. I would not consider anything that holds up fine for 29 years to be rubbish. I have had other issues with it but I'm willing to chalk that up to a combination of design flaws inherent in the system as well as said old age. With that in mind, if the thing ever truly wears out, I'll just have to suck it up and get a new Floyd.
Agreed. Its well worth putting some time into searching.
Ayrton
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In case you want to replace
https://www.emma-music.com/schaller,us,4,SCH-545064.cfm
In case you want to replace
https://www.emma-music.com/schaller,us,4,SCH-545064.cfm
Ascension
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Ascension
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Yep had fits with several over the years with those systems and own 2 now. Base plate is not real steel and is very soft so strips easily. The 2 guitars i own now ( my 92 Washburn MG 104 and Pinky my 1990 Carvin X220C) both locked down without a issue and are stable. However have had many with that system that would lock down and NOT hold before the screw holes stripped! If you strip the base plate hole it will have to have a new plate.The high end Ghoto Floyds will fit so if yours wont cooperate let me know i will show you which system will work. Good luck.
Ascension
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JB_From_Hell
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Throw it in the trash and replace it with a non-locking Fender bridge.
j/k
I had several Jackson guitars in the past with Jackson-branded bridges, and a Fender HM Strat with a Kahler Spyder. They were all pretty crappy compared to a Floyd.
Throw it in the trash and replace it with a non-locking Fender bridge.
j/k
I had several Jackson guitars in the past with Jackson-branded bridges, and a Fender HM Strat with a Kahler Spyder. They were all pretty crappy compared to a Floyd.
