Need help w/ schematic.

B2D

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My Music Man currently has this set-up for pickups and controls:

~ HSH, 1 Volume, 1 Tone, 5-way blade switch.

I am converting it to this:

~ HH, 1 volume, 1 tone. Tone is a push-pull pot that I want to use to split the coils of the two humbuckers. The switch will be a 3-way Les Paul switch.

Basically the new setup will be a copy of the Ibanez JS1000's setup. Can anyone provide me with a wiring diagram for this?
 
Re: Need help w/ schematic.

ArtieToo said:
Basically, you just need this diagram:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/2hum_vol_tone_3way-w-split.html

Just bring the other red/white pair down to the switch. Also, I'd connect the ground to the "top" of the switch rather than bottom so that you have "split" mode when pulled.

so if we're looking at that switch and labeling the poles like this...

1 2
3 4
5 6

...you're saying I should connect the ground to #2, the bridge red/white pair to #6 and the neck red/white pair to #4?
 
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B2D said:
so if we're looking at that switch and labeling the poles like this...

1 2
3 4
5 6

...you're saying I should connect the ground to #2, the bridge red/white pair to #6 and the neck red/white pair to #4?

Not exactly. :) Bridge red/white to #3. Neck red/white to #4. Ground connected to both #1 and #2.

A push/pull works like this:

push-pull.jpg
 
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Mkay... the ground connections on 1 and 2 are connected to the ground of the bottom of the volume pot then?
 
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Yes. ;)

Any ground, really. As long as it gets to ground somewhere.
 
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Oh crapppooola...

I checked and double-checked everything and AFAIK I did it right but obviously i messed up somewhere because the guitar doesnt work now.

Help?
 
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With the push/pull in either position, or just one?

btw - I was getting ready to hit the rack, so this may have to wait 'til tomorrow.
 
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ArtieToo said:
With the push/pull in either position, or just one?

in BOTH positions. Was i supposed to make all the connections on poles 3-6 and not 1-4? This is referring to my previous labeling with the "bottom" of the push-pull connections as 5 and 6 and the top ones right under the pot as 1 and 2.

I seriously have no idea what I did wrong.
 
Re: Need help w/ schematic.

ArtieToo said:
It should be like this: :)

b2d.jpg

Does it matter if the neck/bridge pairs are reversed in order on poles 3 and 4? Other than that that's how I did it. The ground wire is connected to the base of the volume pot.
 
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Just a thought: The switch I bought was a 3 way LP style toggle but I had a question about hooking it up... the bottom of the switch is a rectangular box-shape with three little connection tabs running down the center of it, and one tab thats a part of the outer metal casing of the switch. I connected the hot leads on the pickups to each of the outer tabs, and then connected a wire on the center AND the side tab to the connection on the volume pot shown in the diagram. Is that correct or incorrect?

Like this:
switch.jpg
 
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i love reading posts when artie talks ^_^ i always get to learn something!!
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Re: Need help w/ schematic.

B2D said:
Just a thought: The switch I bought was a 3 way LP style toggle but I had a question about hooking it up... the bottom of the switch is a rectangular box-shape with three little connection tabs running down the center of it, and one tab thats a part of the outer metal casing of the switch. I connected the hot leads on the pickups to each of the outer tabs, and then connected a wire on the center AND the side tab to the connection on the volume pot shown in the diagram. Is that correct or incorrect?

Like this:
switch.jpg

Check where the connections lead to... often times one of those center lugs runs to a ground on the switch.
 
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DeadSkinSlayer3 said:
Check where the connections lead to... often times one of those center lugs runs to a ground on the switch.

Que the hell pasa?

I know the center lug is supposed to go to it's terminal on the volume control but reading that Duncan schematic I wasnt sure how to connect it so I just connected them both with the same wire to the terminal on the pot. Should I ground the "outer" lug and have only the center lug go to the pot terminal?
 
Re: Need help w/ schematic.

B2D said:
alright, off to the repair shop we go then.

Sorry buddy. I don't know how this post got away from me.
(Actually, I do . . . a bunch of crap happening on the home front lately.) :blackeye:

One of those center lugs is the switch ground. It should be easy to see as part of the switch housing. Disconnect that. It will kill all your output. You can leave it disconnected, or better yet, run a jumper from it to the back of a pot, or where ever your main ground is. That should prevent hum when you touch the switch.

Sorry for missing this. :yell:

Artie

Oh yeah . . . on the other question, no, it doesn't matter if you reversed 3 and 4. :)
 
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ArtieToo said:
Sorry buddy. I don't know how this post got away from me.
(Actually, I do . . . a bunch of crap happening on the home front lately.) :blackeye:

One of those center lugs is the switch ground. It should be easy to see as part of the switch housing. Disconnect that. It will kill all your output. You can leave it disconnected, or better yet, run a jumper from it to the back of a pot, or where ever your main ground is. That should prevent hum when you touch the switch.

Sorry for missing this. :yell:

Artie

Oh yeah . . . on the other question, no, it doesn't matter if you reversed 3 and 4. :)
I'm thinking it's the one attached to the outer casing.

In any case, I turned it in for that plus a fret level, which it needed anyway. Thanks for the help!
 
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