New Carvin Jason Becker Model OMGAW
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RayBarbeeMusic
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I bought an older straight/pointy headstock DC127 from the 90s this year and the profile is MUCH different than my 5 year old DC127...much thinner and faster, more comfortable to my hands. I wish they would offer that older profile as an option (and no before someone pipes in, not an option 50.)
I bought an older straight/pointy headstock DC127 from the 90s this year and the profile is MUCH different than my 5 year old DC127...much thinner and faster, more comfortable to my hands. I wish they would offer that older profile as an option (and no before someone pipes in, not an option 50.)
Gearjoneser
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Overall, this thread makes me sad looking at the pics of Jason Becker, because the raw deal life dealt him is just wrong.
But to get back to the guitar....
I had the EXACT same guitar in an ebony fretboard version, due to a custom shop order that I found, and traded a Bonnie Raite strat for....
The problem I had with it, and every Carvin is those cheap electronics and pickups. Carvin makes a great guitar, then spoils it with inferior pickups and electronics. That's what much of the bad rap is all about. So, you've got to approach them as guitars that should be gutted and rewired with aftermarket pickups. Are they still a pain to overhaul due to pickup ring misalignment, or did that get addressed from then till now?
That's the deal with Carvins.
They seem to have more mojo than a lot of other brands, and definitely better construction. But the problem is the whole crappy pots, sh1tty pickups deal. And using speakers that suck. And nobody needs a bunch of mini switches like a BC Rich.
When a true gear head looks at Carvin, it's a double edged sword, because there's a lot of plusses....made in USA, nice wood, options, modern look, etc. It comes down to the fact that they cut corners, and it appears that they would have been smarter to upgrade all that and elevate their brand to a higher level.
Why don't they do that? That is the question, and the reason both Carvin and Peavey have hit left and right of center. A few bad ideas like poor electronics or ugly designs. Getting those things wrong means the difference between being them and Fender/Gibson/PRS/Martin/Taylor/Fulltone.
Carvin and Peavey both suffer from this major dilemma. Is there a job available at either of these two companies for a fix it man? It's an easy job. Stop cutting corners, and charge a few bucks more!
Overall, this thread makes me sad looking at the pics of Jason Becker, because the raw deal life dealt him is just wrong.
But to get back to the guitar....
I had the EXACT same guitar in an ebony fretboard version, due to a custom shop order that I found, and traded a Bonnie Raite strat for....
The problem I had with it, and every Carvin is those cheap electronics and pickups. Carvin makes a great guitar, then spoils it with inferior pickups and electronics. That's what much of the bad rap is all about. So, you've got to approach them as guitars that should be gutted and rewired with aftermarket pickups. Are they still a pain to overhaul due to pickup ring misalignment, or did that get addressed from then till now?
That's the deal with Carvins.
They seem to have more mojo than a lot of other brands, and definitely better construction. But the problem is the whole crappy pots, sh1tty pickups deal. And using speakers that suck. And nobody needs a bunch of mini switches like a BC Rich.
When a true gear head looks at Carvin, it's a double edged sword, because there's a lot of plusses....made in USA, nice wood, options, modern look, etc. It comes down to the fact that they cut corners, and it appears that they would have been smarter to upgrade all that and elevate their brand to a higher level.
Why don't they do that? That is the question, and the reason both Carvin and Peavey have hit left and right of center. A few bad ideas like poor electronics or ugly designs. Getting those things wrong means the difference between being them and Fender/Gibson/PRS/Martin/Taylor/Fulltone.
Carvin and Peavey both suffer from this major dilemma. Is there a job available at either of these two companies for a fix it man? It's an easy job. Stop cutting corners, and charge a few bucks more!
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TheLivingDead
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I've definitely heard that. Really not a deal breaker for me though as I normally gut my guitars anyways.
But yeah, It'd be nice if there were at least nice pots from the start.
I've definitely heard that. Really not a deal breaker for me though as I normally gut my guitars anyways.
But yeah, It'd be nice if there were at least nice pots from the start.
verbotenco
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I thought it was this guitar you were talking about:
I thought it was this guitar you were talking about:
TheLivingDead
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Re: New Carvin Jason Becker Model OMGAW
Ya know, I'll probably end up picking that up one day. But even as gaudy as my tastes are, I'm just not a big fan of that headstock. Maybe I'll just throw my own together. Should be waaaaay cheaper that way.
Ya know, I'll probably end up picking that up one day. But even as gaudy as my tastes are, I'm just not a big fan of that headstock. Maybe I'll just throw my own together. Should be waaaaay cheaper that way.
TheLivingDead
Dawn Of The Shred
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Funny thing is... I've never even touched a Carvin! That worries me though as I do loathe most PRS's because of their toyish, light feel. Maybe it's just the new Carvins and the crappy electronics?
Funny thing is... I've never even touched a Carvin! That worries me though as I do loathe most PRS's because of their toyish, light feel. Maybe it's just the new Carvins and the crappy electronics?
KeeperOS
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I have played plenty of Carvins, I wouldn't call them plasticky although they DO tend to sound bright and with neutral character, however I STRONGLY feel that this has more to do with the electronics and pickups than anything else. Plus, I've played a few real gems that sounded amazing whatever they were being played through...
I have played plenty of Carvins, I wouldn't call them plasticky although they DO tend to sound bright and with neutral character, however I STRONGLY feel that this has more to do with the electronics and pickups than anything else. Plus, I've played a few real gems that sounded amazing whatever they were being played through...
verbotenco
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Re: New Carvin Jason Becker Model OMGAW
You are missing out on good guitar with incredible value. I almost bought one back in 1995, neck-thru body (poplar), ebony fretboard, truss rod cover engraved with my name, original Floyd Rose, Made in USA, everything for US$ 500, but since the waiting time was 3 months, I gave up on it and got a Valley Arts instead. Wrong decision.
You are missing out on good guitar with incredible value. I almost bought one back in 1995, neck-thru body (poplar), ebony fretboard, truss rod cover engraved with my name, original Floyd Rose, Made in USA, everything for US$ 500, but since the waiting time was 3 months, I gave up on it and got a Valley Arts instead. Wrong decision.
Re: New Carvin Jason Becker Model OMGAW
Back in 85, I was building my own homemade guitar based on the shape of a Californian by Domino guitar I used to have in my teens. I got the Carvin 24.75" glue in neck w/flying V headstock. In those days, Carvins stuff was very good. The switches were all Switchcraft, and the M22 N & M22 SD pups were and mine still are amazing sounding pups. In those days, they were using Kahler tremolo bridges, and Schaller hardware. The electronics kit that I ordered was fantastic. After all these years, I just recently have to replace the pots. The kit came with stereo wiring option, which I used. It was all passive electronics. The new electronics are what I don't care for in the new models. My neck, also came w/brass nut, which was used then. It is 12" radius w/ebony board and dot inlays. A wonderful neck. I glued it into a one piece Black walnut body that I built from a block of wood I bought for $5.00 then.
Back in 85, I was building my own homemade guitar based on the shape of a Californian by Domino guitar I used to have in my teens. I got the Carvin 24.75" glue in neck w/flying V headstock. In those days, Carvins stuff was very good. The switches were all Switchcraft, and the M22 N & M22 SD pups were and mine still are amazing sounding pups. In those days, they were using Kahler tremolo bridges, and Schaller hardware. The electronics kit that I ordered was fantastic. After all these years, I just recently have to replace the pots. The kit came with stereo wiring option, which I used. It was all passive electronics. The new electronics are what I don't care for in the new models. My neck, also came w/brass nut, which was used then. It is 12" radius w/ebony board and dot inlays. A wonderful neck. I glued it into a one piece Black walnut body that I built from a block of wood I bought for $5.00 then.
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Ascension
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Most of my older Carvins stayed stock in the electronics. While they have their own voice in the pickups I actually like the way that they sound and the feel and taper of the pots.
My 1990 X220C is stone stock with the M22SD and M22N and the factory pots and I won't touch it. Old Carvins flat SCREAM like nothing else through a nice Marshall!
Disagree with this BIG time!
Most of my older Carvins stayed stock in the electronics. While they have their own voice in the pickups I actually like the way that they sound and the feel and taper of the pots.
My 1990 X220C is stone stock with the M22SD and M22N and the factory pots and I won't touch it. Old Carvins flat SCREAM like nothing else through a nice Marshall!
Ascension
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Re: New Carvin Jason Becker Model OMGAW
Here is a in stock Blue Flame DC127 that is a clone of the JB without the actives for hundreds less!!
http://www.carvinguitars.com/guitars-in-stock/single.php?Serial=111026
Here is a in stock Blue Flame DC127 that is a clone of the JB without the actives for hundreds less!!
http://www.carvinguitars.com/guitars-in-stock/single.php?Serial=111026
TheLivingDead
Dawn Of The Shred
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Ah, very nice Ascension!
Ah, very nice Ascension!
rotting casket
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Re: New Carvin Jason Becker Model OMGAW
I just scored a Carvin off Craigslist for $600. it's a 2011 ST300 with...
Pointy headstock
Maple wings and neck
Ebony fretboard (no inlays)
SS jumbo frets
OFR and locking nut
Sperzel locking tuners
Dunlop straplocks
Single volume pot (no tone) - my favorite set-up :approve:
3-way blade pickup selector
2 humbuckers
Entire guitar finished in glossy Ferrari Red :eyecrazy: badassssssssss!
Black hardware
Black Carvin logo
Hardshell case
a great friggin deal, imo.
this guitar has the same feel, vibe, and craftsmanship of my $2000+ custom shop Jackson and B.C. Rich guitars. maybe it doesn't have quite the bling and mojo, but for $600 this is one badass guitar. jaw-dropping value. I'm still shocked.
the neck is a bit thicker than my Jacksons....I like!
I can't comment on Carvin's pups and electronics, cause the previous owner replaced it all (even the wiring). the pups are DMZ Super 3 (bridge) and Humbucker from Hell (neck).
I'm NEVER selling this guitar :approve::cool2:
I just scored a Carvin off Craigslist for $600. it's a 2011 ST300 with...
Pointy headstock
Maple wings and neck
Ebony fretboard (no inlays)
SS jumbo frets
OFR and locking nut
Sperzel locking tuners
Dunlop straplocks
Single volume pot (no tone) - my favorite set-up :approve:
3-way blade pickup selector
2 humbuckers
Entire guitar finished in glossy Ferrari Red :eyecrazy: badassssssssss!
Black hardware
Black Carvin logo
Hardshell case
a great friggin deal, imo.
this guitar has the same feel, vibe, and craftsmanship of my $2000+ custom shop Jackson and B.C. Rich guitars. maybe it doesn't have quite the bling and mojo, but for $600 this is one badass guitar. jaw-dropping value. I'm still shocked.
the neck is a bit thicker than my Jacksons....I like!
I can't comment on Carvin's pups and electronics, cause the previous owner replaced it all (even the wiring). the pups are DMZ Super 3 (bridge) and Humbucker from Hell (neck).
I'm NEVER selling this guitar :approve::cool2:
Re: New Carvin Jason Becker Model OMGAW
Ill chime in with this. People slag carvin's pickups and electronics and many people plan slag Carvin.. They make great guitars.. I think they had a period where the guitars werent as soulful as the earlier ones, cux of the way they were building the necks and trying to keep them straight. Its my understanding that this has been rectified.
Their pickups sound great in the right guitar. Some people love them and I had a couple of Carvins that killed stock. I had a couple that I swapped the pups in. They are better than alot of OEM pups. I dont care for most Gibson pickups either..
Also, I have not had any more problems with carvin electronics than any other. Except in one guitar. I wanted to put cts pots and had to make alil room. no probs in others
Ill chime in with this. People slag carvin's pickups and electronics and many people plan slag Carvin.. They make great guitars.. I think they had a period where the guitars werent as soulful as the earlier ones, cux of the way they were building the necks and trying to keep them straight. Its my understanding that this has been rectified.
Their pickups sound great in the right guitar. Some people love them and I had a couple of Carvins that killed stock. I had a couple that I swapped the pups in. They are better than alot of OEM pups. I dont care for most Gibson pickups either..
Also, I have not had any more problems with carvin electronics than any other. Except in one guitar. I wanted to put cts pots and had to make alil room. no probs in others
TheLivingDead
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desertdude
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sweet axes, love the vid clip
sweet axes, love the vid clip
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