New Fender Ritchie Blackmore Strat

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Bah.

Blackmore never used Quarter Pounders and they sound nothing like him through a semi-correct rig.

The QP are giving you a Blackmoreish sound through a normal amp, in particular "catch the rainbow" clean pickings, but overall this is a slap in the face.

Also doesn't seem to have a LCR network, which makes it double pointless.
 
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I like it, but it seems to have import parts on it- and a gig bag- fine if they're going to be much cheaper than the Malmsteen strats- but not acceptable if they're charging $1400 for it.

Blackmore used Quarter Pounders- as well as Bardens, Fender Lace Sensors, Fender Stock pickups, and Bill Lawrence. He was always changing pickups.

I like it- just depends what price they're aiming at
 
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Blackmore DID use Quarter Pounders in Rainbow in the later years. (no, I'm not talking about the 90s era Rainbow).
 
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What do the Quarter punders sound like?

No, the large-pole single coils that look like QPs are actually Schecter F400 single coils.

They use the same larger magnets, but QPs are awg43 high-resistance pickups, the Schecters have vintage style awg42 coils.

Hmmm, I wonder whether a SD custom shop order of a QP with regular wind is in order :scratchch
 
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What do the Quarter punders sound like?

The QP give you a fatter, ballsy sound that is still noticeably Strat.

As I said before, if you want to use a normal rig, you get pretty close to some of Blackmore's sound with this.

However, Blackmore himself has never, ever used any overwound pickups. All his pickups without electronics are "vintage class" Strat pickups, including the QP-like looking Schecters and the Lace Sensors where he uses the Gold variant which is 50ties Strat class.

Blackmore gets his sound by fattening it up with his rig, noticeably with a treble booster and PLAYING VERY VERY LOUD. A LCR network gives you the "sweeter" sound that you hear on most solos from 1975 on, this is a big factor in e.g. what you hear in 1984, which is a very smooth Strat sound you don't hear from anybody else. It is unclear at what times the LCR network was on the neck pickup only, but all his guitars from 75 on have it.

Anyway, so if you want his sound you either go through all the above trouble, or if you don't want to then the QP is actually the better choice as it gives you some of the fatness from the rig without a truckload of gear.

Another problem is that the QPs hum like hell even under moderate gain, they just have too many winds and pick up too much junk.
 
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What Lace Sensors did he use specifically?

A friend of mine offered to buy his Lace Sensor Silver pickup, I'd put it on the bridge... I read some rave reviews on HC of it. It seems to fit the bill for a fatter Strat pickup without overdoing it.
 
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What Lace Sensors did he use specifically?

Gold, or vintage style.

A friend of mine offered to buy his Lace Sensor Silver pickup, I'd put it on the bridge... I read some rave reviews on HC of it. It seems to fit the bill for a fatter Strat pickup without overdoing it.

Again, if you want the real thing with the right rig, you cannot use a fatter Strat pickup. Fattening up the vintage class Strat pickup is the name of the game.
 
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Gold, or vintage style.



Again, if you want the real thing with the right rig, you cannot use a fatter Strat pickup. Fattening up the vintage class Strat pickup is the name of the game.

Weren't all Blackmore's Strats stock in the 'Machine Head' days?
 
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Weren't all Blackmore's Strats stock in the 'Machine Head' days?

From what I've seen, they were stock, with the possible exception of a scalloped fretboard.

Blackmore's tone can be had with a Strat with vintage style pickups, a booster (even a Tubescreamer) with the tone cranked up to emulate a treble booster, into a Marshall with an echo or delay unit- I use the Line 6 DL-4. It's not the hardest tone to get.
 
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From what I've seen, they were stock, with the possible exception of a scalloped fretboard.

Blackmore's tone can be had with a Strat with vintage style pickups, a booster (even a Tubescreamer) with the tone cranked up to emulate a treble booster, into a Marshall with an echo or delay unit- I use the Line 6 DL-4. It's not the hardest tone to get.
+1 on the TS as a boost!
 
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Forgive my ignorance, but how would a treble booster work in the way of fattening up the Strat tone? A TS with the tone way up wouldn't just make everything more screechy and ice picky?

I know Ritchie used a TB, but I don't have any experience with any TBs so I'm a bit lost here.

Also, if I were to do the "fatten the vintage Strat tone" thing instead of just slapping some fat single coils in, what would be a good starting point regarding pickups? From the SD line preferably... Fender pickups are insanely expensive here in Chile.
 
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Does anybody have more detailed photos of the scallop. Looks like they picked the wrong scallop, too, 12th fret and up just scooped, Malmsteen-style, instead of each fret with the right pattern.
 
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Forgive my ignorance, but how would a treble booster work in the way of fattening up the Strat tone? A TS with the tone way up wouldn't just make everything more screechy and ice picky?

A treble booster is not an equalizer.

You should think of it as a specializer distortion pedal that, instead of just clipping waveforms, boosts them to get better compression and warmth out of the later stages, and it does so by boosting only certain frequencies.

Compression means fatness in certain areas of overdriven sound.

It's the same reason why a Duncan Custom with it's ceramic magnet sounds cold and hard like you expect clean with light play, but can give you the warmest, fullest sound when using it to overdrive the right amp.

I know Ritchie used a TB, but I don't have any experience with any TBs so I'm a bit lost here.

Also, if I were to do the "fatten the vintage Strat tone" thing instead of just slapping some fat single coils in, what would be a good starting point regarding pickups? From the SD line preferably... Fender pickups are insanely expensive here in Chile.

SSL-1. Sorry :)

Lace Sensor Gold sound similar and seem to be the best variant with hum supression for projects like this.

An LCR network is a must for any of Blackmore's later sounds. I know people don't want to hear it because it's some great unknown gizmo but there you are.

And almost all "real" Strat players, Blackmore, Gilmour, Roth, make extensive use of reverbs and delays in doses that aren't audible as delays but fatten up the sound.
 
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I standard strat with stock pickups can get in the Blackmore territory with just the simple Seymour Duncan booster and setting the resonance switch to the "humbucker mode".
 
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Forgive my ignorance, but how would a treble booster work in the way of fattening up the Strat tone? A TS with the tone way up wouldn't just make everything more screechy and ice picky?
I think they're misnamed. They're more like mid boosters. They make your guitar's tone fat, honking, rude, crunchy, and tight. It is a big part of the secret behind Blackmore's rude attitudinous guitar tone.
 
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I think they're misnamed. They're more like mid boosters. They make your guitar's tone fat, honking, rude, crunchy, and tight. It is a big part of the secret behind Blackmore's rude attitudinous guitar tone.

From my understanding, here's how they work. Marshalls, when cranked, tend to get a compressed, smooth, sustaining tone, at the expense of definition and clarity. A treble booster, aside from boosting the overall signal like a tube screamer and getting sustained leads at lower volumes, adds clarity and crunchiness.

Treble boosters were popular until the Ibanez Tube Screamer came out, which replaced the market of treble boosters.
 
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