New Gibson CEO
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Jacew
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Marketing issue possibly? I've never actually heard about any reissue Kramers.
Reason why I thought they should make em in east was precisely so they could compete with Esps and rest. Made in USA would make them well above pricewise. Some might want MIA Kramer over others, but most don't care when price difference is big enough and there's no significant quality gap. Plus they're all import products in rest of the world anyway.
Marketing issue possibly? I've never actually heard about any reissue Kramers.
Reason why I thought they should make em in east was precisely so they could compete with Esps and rest. Made in USA would make them well above pricewise. Some might want MIA Kramer over others, but most don't care when price difference is big enough and there's no significant quality gap. Plus they're all import products in rest of the world anyway.
Sirion
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Kramer has reissued a few models, with the most successful being a Sambora reissue (named Jersey Star) around 2005.
I have long maintained that what they should have done with Kramer was to make it into a Warmoth-like operation focusing on Superstrats: they had a number of classic models with relatively small differences between them (Pacers and Barettas mostly differed through their routing options, and the main difference between 86 and 88 bodies is an extra scoop on the lower horn), so they could relatively easily manage to reproduce a lot of their classic catalogue with relatively little effort.
Now it is probably too late, since there are so many competitors, but if Gibson, who owned the brand long before Fender acquired Charvel, had done it in the early 2000s, before the Superstrat nostalgia market was oversaturated, I can see it having done fairly well.
Kramer has reissued a few models, with the most successful being a Sambora reissue (named Jersey Star) around 2005.
I have long maintained that what they should have done with Kramer was to make it into a Warmoth-like operation focusing on Superstrats: they had a number of classic models with relatively small differences between them (Pacers and Barettas mostly differed through their routing options, and the main difference between 86 and 88 bodies is an extra scoop on the lower horn), so they could relatively easily manage to reproduce a lot of their classic catalogue with relatively little effort.
Now it is probably too late, since there are so many competitors, but if Gibson, who owned the brand long before Fender acquired Charvel, had done it in the early 2000s, before the Superstrat nostalgia market was oversaturated, I can see it having done fairly well.
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Re: New Gibson CEO
Long as they make moar (blonde) maple boards, I'm a-ok with that
Or ebony... screw richlite, nasty-pale rosewood, crappy rosewood substitutes, and baked maple, though
Long as they make moar (blonde) maple boards, I'm a-ok with that
Or ebony... screw richlite, nasty-pale rosewood, crappy rosewood substitutes, and baked maple, though
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Obsessive Compulsive
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The new CEO needs not to have experience as a musician, or even be able to play guitar, dumb ass.
They are not looking for a new bass player for Metallica, WTF? But a turnaorund artist with proven experience in change management. The most successful turnaround artists of FOrtune 500 companies had no experience in the industry they were entering. AMerican Express, Apple, eBay, GE, Pepsico come to mind.
This whole thing of consumers fretting about the the old CEO and his replacement, is ridiculous. Do you even know anything about business? How many of you have a bachelor degree in business adminisration? C'mon man... Just shut the f up and play the guitar. You are not fn business analysts on CNBC attempting to sway Gibson stocks with your lopsided opinion.
The new CEO needs not to have experience as a musician, or even be able to play guitar, dumb ass.
They are not looking for a new bass player for Metallica, WTF? But a turnaorund artist with proven experience in change management. The most successful turnaround artists of FOrtune 500 companies had no experience in the industry they were entering. AMerican Express, Apple, eBay, GE, Pepsico come to mind.
This whole thing of consumers fretting about the the old CEO and his replacement, is ridiculous. Do you even know anything about business? How many of you have a bachelor degree in business adminisration? C'mon man... Just shut the f up and play the guitar. You are not fn business analysts on CNBC attempting to sway Gibson stocks with your lopsided opinion.
dystrust
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Apple? The only CEO who turned that company around was Steve Jobs, and he founded the company. His background may not have been computer science, but that hardly counts as no experience in the industry. The only other Apple CEOs I can think of were John Sculley (who was a disaster) and Tim Cook who has essentially been coasting for his entire tenure.
As far as business analyst experience, zionstrat and Aceman both do that for a living so I'm not sure where you're coming from.
Apple? The only CEO who turned that company around was Steve Jobs, and he founded the company. His background may not have been computer science, but that hardly counts as no experience in the industry. The only other Apple CEOs I can think of were John Sculley (who was a disaster) and Tim Cook who has essentially been coasting for his entire tenure.
As far as business analyst experience, zionstrat and Aceman both do that for a living so I'm not sure where you're coming from.
Jacew
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Most "business experts" are just experts at talking crap.
Most "business experts" are just experts at talking crap.
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Jacew, sounds like you've had some bad experiences. But on average, the data is very clear... Putting customer needs at the center of product, marketing and biz dev creates a common focus and the associated processes increase sustainability and all work together to increase return on investment.
Search for terms like 6 sigma or data driven decision making for background and look at anaytics vendors (like SAS) and you will find thousands of highly sucessfull case studies.
Also keep in mind that the series addressed mass production as well as boutique markets... If Gibson focused only on boutique, there would be far less need for change.
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Jacew, sounds like you've had some bad experiences. But on average, the data is very clear... Putting customer needs at the center of product, marketing and biz dev creates a common focus and the associated processes increase sustainability and all work together to increase return on investment.
Search for terms like 6 sigma or data driven decision making for background and look at anaytics vendors (like SAS) and you will find thousands of highly sucessfull case studies.
Also keep in mind that the series addressed mass production as well as boutique markets... If Gibson focused only on boutique, there would be far less need for change.
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Jacew
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There are plenty of examples of businesses run to ground because management keeps on analyzing and adjusting without understanding the actual business they're running.
No amount of jargon can help to steer the company right. The processes need to be built and focus needs to stay in running the business, while steering it forward.
Few people have the skill and ability required. Most just parrot the stuff they've been thaught and rely on charisma and jargon. Ironically that's often enough in business.
There are plenty of examples of businesses run to ground because management keeps on analyzing and adjusting without understanding the actual business they're running.
No amount of jargon can help to steer the company right. The processes need to be built and focus needs to stay in running the business, while steering it forward.
Few people have the skill and ability required. Most just parrot the stuff they've been thaught and rely on charisma and jargon. Ironically that's often enough in business.
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Jacew, we're on the same page with "The processes need to be built and focus needs to stay in running the business, while steering it forward."
That's about 75% of the series and there's a lot of "here's how you do it" to back it up.
Don't know if you read the most current post about leadership, but we did prioritize knowledge of industry...
Obviously, Gibson didn't go that direction, and yes, if Gibson doesn't optimise processes around product, marketing and biz dev ( especially dealers), it's likely they will continue to loose market and mind share.
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Jacew, we're on the same page with "The processes need to be built and focus needs to stay in running the business, while steering it forward."
That's about 75% of the series and there's a lot of "here's how you do it" to back it up.
Don't know if you read the most current post about leadership, but we did prioritize knowledge of industry...
Obviously, Gibson didn't go that direction, and yes, if Gibson doesn't optimise processes around product, marketing and biz dev ( especially dealers), it's likely they will continue to loose market and mind share.
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