New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

[fab.regnaut]

Modeled to be passive version of active EMG they have low dc resistance AND very high ouput !
bridge dc=11.41 ouput=470mV
neck dc= 7.22 ouput=385mV

And DM says that they have the qualities of active - very high clean ouput -
and even better without " The down side for many players is that they also sound cold, have limited dynamics and run out of headroom when played hard. And of course, they need batteries "

How possible ?
Are they winded like Screaming Demon or Jazz with a huge ceramic magnet ?

( I play with a kind of those with my Demon and Jazz with alnico 8 : good )

 

[Orange]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

Wow looks pretty cool i'd like to hear it. Di marzio definitely makes experimental pickups, n'est-ce pas ?

 

[Benjy_26]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

Meh.

I don't think EMG's going to go through much trouble. A lot of the "downsides" that Dimarzio is trumpeting are just rumors promulgated by people who don't have much first hand experience with actives.

 

[JohnnyGuitarCA]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

I knew they were working on these a year ago.
I bet they'll be worth the wait!

 

[Moonsorrow]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

I knew they were working on these a year ago.
I bet they'll be worth the wait!

+1

 

[juka]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

Meh.

I don't think EMG's going to go through much trouble. A lot of the "downsides" that Dimarzio is trumpeting are just rumors promulgated by people who don't have much first hand experience with actives.

+1

BKP did the same some time ago, offering PUs that should sound like EMGs (Zakk Wylde Set):smack:
If you like the EMG sound, buy EMGs, if not, let it be.

Whats next? DiMarzio offering a JB copy for people who don't like the SD logo on it?:chairfall

 

[Moonsorrow]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

+1

BKP did the same some time ago, offering PUs that should sound like EMGs (Zakk Wylde Set):smack:
If you like the EMG sound, buy EMGs, if not, let it be.

Whats next? DiMarzio offering a JB copy for people who don't like the SD logo on it?:chairfall

DiMarzio doesn`t have to take a backseat to no one! If you don`t like their stuff don`t buy it. And their not trying to copy but improve on an existing product!

 

[JohnnyGuitar]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

DiMarzio doesn`t have to take a backseat to no one! If you don`t like their stuff don`t buy it. And their not trying to copy but improve on an existing product!

Maybe it should be their slogan - if you don't like our stuff don't buy it.

:smack:

I hate this type of posts.

 

[shred4Him]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

+1

BKP did the same some time ago, offering PUs that should sound like EMGs (Zakk Wylde Set):smack:
If you like the EMG sound, buy EMGs, if not, let it be.

Whats next? DiMarzio offering a JB copy for people who don't like the SD logo on it?:chairfall

Wow, that is a pretty closed minded approach. You mean that no one can try and improve/adapt/modify an existing idea? Shouldn't that mean that all of Seymour's designs based on classic pickups be thrown out the door? Why bother getting an SD if you can just get the real thing? There are gazillions of PAF copy pickups out there. I guess Gibson is the only company who should be making them now. Hey Seymour and Larry, you guys should just close up shop now!!!

 

[Orange]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

Here's more from their website:

OUTPUT: 470 (Oh My God!)
Treble 6,5
Middle 6
Bass 6

Active humbuckers have a distinctive sound - powerful, clean, open-sounding, with excellent harmonic overtones and very tight lows. The down side for many players is that they also sound cold, have limited dynamics and run out of headroom when played hard. And of course, they need batteries. In 2006 we took a close look at the most popular active neck and bridge humbuckers to see if we could capture all of the good qualities and eliminate the disadvantages. The D Activator™ neck and bridge models are the result. They have the same loud yet clean sound as the active humbuckers players are familiar with, and killer harmonics. They also respond instantly to hard or light pick attack. In a word, they rock. And they don’t need batteries.
Recommended For: Bridge
Tech Talk: An interesting fact about the most popular active bridge pickups is that they aren’t incredibly loud. Instead, they have a strong, focused attack that hits the amp very hard and makes them ‘feel’ more powerful than they actually spec out to be. This is an important characteristic that we needed to capture with the D Activator™ bridge pickup. We also wanted to avoid the limiting effect that can occur with active pickups when they are played hard. Our pickup is passive with a lot of headroom, and it responds quickly and accurately to changes in pick attack. A hard pick attack doesn’t cause the signal to flatten out, and picking more softly or rolling the volume control down lets the sound clean up naturally.


Looks pretty good.
It's a good idea, how many times did i read complaints about EMG's sounding good but too sterile?
I have EMG's one one guitar and i like it though. But i remmoved them from another guitar (the one on the picture, has SD's now). One is enough.
Can't wait to try it. But here in eurpe it's gonna take like 6 month to get one ^^

Gives me time to try more duncans !

 

[Fusion1]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

Will it look like a covered EMG?

 

[JohnnyGuitar]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

Will it look like a covered EMG?

Just checked on the Dimarzio website.

No.

 

[Fusion1]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

Very interested in the 6 and 7! The color options available are an added bonus.

 

[JeffB]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

Here's more from their website:

Tech Talk: ..........We also wanted to avoid the limiting effect that can occur with active pickups when they are played hard. Our pickup is passive with a lot of headroom, and it responds quickly and accurately to changes in pick attack. A hard pick attack doesn’t cause the signal to flatten out, and picking more softly or rolling the volume control down lets the sound clean up naturally.
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And this is the thing that absolutely SUCKS (imo) about EMGs...I like the power...the "push"....and the clarity, but I cannot stand that freaking compression (mentioned above)....that nasty "squish" in the high frequencies. It totally kills your picking dynamics.

I've no desire to try these new DiMarzios , but I think it's damn cool they came up with these to address/counter the issue with EMGs design.

 

[Kosh Naranek]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

Should be interesting. It certianly can't hurt that guitarists have more options. I wonder what's different between this and the Steve's Special, besides the slightly more flat EQ curve on the D Activator.

I personally prefer medium output pickups so I don't see myself using these. Last time I played a guitar with EMG's I concluded that they are way too loud! I wonder if they'll come out with a medium output model? Or a counterpart to active single coils? Actually I really don't need Dimarzio to make those for me. I still have some of those Ultrasonic Reference Series pickups from the 80's. They have a flat frequency response, amazingly clean sound, but are passive.

I thought this was interesting:

We also wanted to avoid the limiting effect that can occur with active pickups when they are played hard. Our pickup is passive with a lot of headroom, and it responds quickly and accurately to changes in pick attack. A hard pick attack doesn’t cause the signal to flatten out, and picking more softly or rolling the volume control down lets the sound clean up naturally.

That compressed sound is one of the things I have heard some EMG users say that they especially like about them!

 

[JohnnyGuitar]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

I think it might be a good solution for someone who's trying to combine EMG tone and the tone of more vintage pups on his guitar.
Buying them as a set looks senseless... buy EMG's duhhhh...

 

[fab.regnaut]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

Found on the "Steve Morse pickup" thread in this forum :

Quote : The odd thing is: Resistance - 9.64K, Output - 450mV.
Is a low DC Res able to give a more complex sound to a high output pickup?
End of quote .

So it is the same idea of Dimarzio : low dc resistance and high ouput .

From my experience with the alnico 8 Screaming Demon it can sound f***ing good !
I don't know the ouput of my pickup though ...

 

[dani]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

the concept of passives behaving like actives without sounding sterile has been done for a while now by bill and becky lawrence. the pickup in question is the l-500 and they come in many output flavors.

btw, dc resistance is not a gauge for output.

 

[fab.regnaut]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

Wow looks pretty cool i'd like to hear it. Di marzio definitely makes experimental pickups, n'est-ce pas ?

Certes mon cher mais l'on peut aussi expérimenter soi-même :smokin:

 

[Zhangliqun]

Re: New pickup from Dimarzio "D-activator" !

btw, dc resistance is not a gauge for output.

Not by itself -- but it is a major factor.