New Pickups for Epi Dot Deluxe

JB_From_Hell

JB_From_Hell

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The stocks are OK, but I'd like something better. Compared to my other guitars, the Dot is very dark sounding. I've never tried the P90 in a bucker style, like a Phat Cat or the GFS whatever 90s.

My amp is an early SF Super Reverb. Pedals are various shades of overdrive, fuzz, and distortion. I mostly play bluesy stuff, so I'm into vintage output pickups.
 
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Duncan Antiquity. I have them in my two PRS Custom 22’s.

Seth Lovers are also great...but I prefer them without the covers.

I leave the covers on my Antiquitys.

Are the pots in those Epis 500k? If not I’d replace them with 500k.
 
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Thanks, Lew. Maybe I'll try new pots first, since I don't hate the stock pickups.

I'm looking at the GFS Retrotrons, and they look neat. A guy I went to see recently had an old Guild Starfire, and it sounded pretty killer.
 
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Better how man? Just less dark?

Get Phat Cats. But yeah - you'll eventually rewire the harness anyway...so just start there.
 
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Epiphones all come stock with 500k, it's only Gibson that tried pulling that 300k nonsense. I'd definitely recommend the Mean 90s. They are GFS's (arguably) most popular model for a reason.

If you get the Phat Cats, be prepared to do a mag swap, the stock A2s are really dark. Put twin short bar A5s in them and you'll be a happy man.
 
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I have three PRS Singlecuts...nice $400 guitars. I have Seth Lovers in two and PGs in the other.

But I’ve been thinking of P90’s in a humbucker size for one of them just to have a little more variety and to try and get a David Gilmour sound...or Leslie West...or my own! :)

I’ve owned the Phatcats and they have their own unique sound but to me they don’t get those P90 sounds I’m after.

I’m kind of thinking of trying Lindy Fralin’s P90’s in a humbucker size. They’re Alnico 4 rather than 2 or 5.

But they do sound really good in the demos I’ve heard.
 
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Jazz set. APH set also has some nice but softened top end. I'm not as sure about the APH neck but the APH bridge should still be plenty bright in your dark Epi Dot. Jazz/APH are only a mag swap away from each other.

My gut tells me an APH in the bridge and a Jazz/APH with an A3 in the neck would be just the ticket. The A3 in the neck will be bright and will still balance well with the A2 in the bridge. While brighter than the APH neck, the Jazz neck will probably be too hot with the APH in the bridge.
 
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Aceman said:
Better how man? Just less dark?
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I'd be happy with less dark. This is my first semi-hollow, and all my pickup swapping was done when I was most concerned with how many oversized ceramic mags were in the pickup, so I'm treading new ground here.
 
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Chistopher said:
Epiphones all come stock with 500k, it's only Gibson that tried pulling that 300k nonsense. I'd definitely recommend the Mean 90s. They are GFS's (arguably) most popular model for a reason.

If you get the Phat Cats, be prepared to do a mag swap, the stock A2s are really dark. Put twin short bar A5s in them and you'll be a happy man.
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Do you even have a Gibson LP? Their 300k pots work just fine for their burstbuckers.
 
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esandes said:
Do you even have a Gibson LP? Their 300k pots work just fine for their burstbuckers.
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That would be well and good if they only ever released guitars with Burstbuckers, but they definitely do not work with a good bit of Gibson's other pickups, the 490r immediately springs to mind. That combined with the 20% tolerances on the pots mean that you could get anywhere from 240k to 360k on your volume pot.

What's worse is one time I pulled out the harness of a late 70s Gibson with 300k volumes and 100k tones.
 
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Still not funny.

But yeah, I believe you've worked on more guitars than you've worked on products that Californians would or wouldn't buy.
 
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...and you still don't have the foggiest idea what you're talking about. ;)
 
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I know they are hard to find but I put a set of Dimarzio VHPAF and VPAF in mine with gold covers and triple shot rings, its a monster now. The mean 90's are excellent pickups at any price, best of both worlds? I'd go a set of P-rails with triple shots, the p-rails p90 mode is a very good HB p90, in a semi hollow the rail even sounds sweet, the parallel HB is very paf ish and the series HB is just big balls to the wall chunk.
 
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gregory said:
...and you still don't have the foggiest idea what you're talking about. ;)
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I'm just saying that 300k pots doesn't work with every HB, not that they are bad for everything. My #2 Les Paul for the longest time had 250k volume pots to accommodate the Jazz/JB combo I had in it.
 
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At least you're spuirming to get back on topic. How you're helping the OP with a poor sense of humor, while trying your darnedest not to be wrong on a tangential subject is still a mystery.

Now if the OP measures a pot as 100k or finds increasing the Q factor with 500k pots are the solution then I'll be the first to admit that I'm being daft.

I think he would be better served by using pickups that shift the resonant peak upwards instead of making he pickups more peaky. Again, I could be wrong.
 
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