New pickups for my Gibson faded SG

Re: New pickups for my Gibson faded SG

+1. SG's tend to be middy because of the mahogany & rosewood, and that can match well with '59's, which have a lot of treble and bass with scooped mids. Gives a balanced EQ.

I considered that, which was why 59s were on my initial list, plus their reputation for taking magnet swaps well.

Before I got my pickups in I attempted to swap in the new pots. Something went very wrong though because I was only getting any sound from the neck position in the three way switch, and it was accompanied with awful buzzing. Tapping the top of either pickup made noise and the middle and bridge pickup switch positions were dead. I went over it a couple times and couldn't figure it out. My best guess is I soldered through the braided ground wire and touched some of the hot wires. I'm not well versed on wiring.

Anyway, I got the PGs in today. I disassembled the entire wiring harness that was left in the guitar and resoldered everything with 50s wiring. I ditched the braided wire that Gibson put in from the switch to the output jack and used some vintage cloth wire. All the electronics worked perfectly when I was done with no hiccups. I put the higher value pots in the neck vol/tone.

I just eyeballed the height so I still need to tweak pickup heights and the pole pieces. The neck is warm and fat. It was a really nice singing quality to it. The bridge sounds awesome. Thick with tons of harmonics when I'm digging in. Not really what I expected after reading so many people say the PG bridge is thin/bright.

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Re: New pickups for my Gibson faded SG

I considered that, which was why 59s were on my initial list, plus their reputation for taking magnet swaps well.

Before I got my pickups in I attempted to swap in the new pots. Something went very wrong though because I was only getting any sound from the neck position in the three way switch, and it was accompanied with awful buzzing. Tapping the top of either pickup made noise and the middle and bridge pickup switch positions were dead. I went over it a couple times and couldn't figure it out. My best guess is I soldered through the braided ground wire and touched some of the hot wires. I'm not well versed on wiring.

Anyway, I got the PGs in today. I disassembled the entire wiring harness that was left in the guitar and resoldered everything with 50s wiring. I ditched the braided wire that Gibson put in from the switch to the output jack and used some vintage cloth wire. All the electronics worked perfectly when I was done with no hiccups. I put the higher value pots in the neck vol/tone.

I just eyeballed the height so I still need to tweak pickup heights and the pole pieces. The neck is warm and fat. It was a really nice singing quality to it. The bridge sounds awesome. Thick with tons of harmonics when I'm digging in. Not really what I expected after reading so many people say the PG bridge is thin/bright.

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I wouldn’t steer you wrong, congrats man! Enjoy.


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Re: New pickups for my Gibson faded SG

Since I can't leave anything alone, I decided to try some magnet swaps in the Pearly Gates. I got two polished Alnico 4 magnets from Addiction-FX and swapped them into both pickups.

I'm still tweaking pickup height and the pole pieces so this is just an initial impression. To my ear the neck with the A4 sounds a little clearer maybe, but it doesn't seem that much of a change. It's still pretty fat. I was hopping I'd get a little more clarity but still have a little bit of butter. The bridge with the A4 doesn't seem like it has more output, but there is a little more high end, and the low end is definitely stiffer. It can chug better than the looser Alnico 2, but the A2 seemed like there were more harmonics begging to jump out for some reason. I'd love the harmonic growl and sweet high end of the A2 mixed with the firmer low end of the A4, but if I had to choose one at the moment I'd probably go with the A2 for the bridge. The neck, which is why I was curious about swapping magnets in the first place, is a toss up between the A2 and A4.

I'm thinking about trying some unoriented alnico 5 magnets next to see how they respond.
 
Re: New pickups for my Gibson faded SG

Got the UOA5 magnets in the mail from addiction-fx, but I haven't swapped them in yet. Does anyone have an estimate on how long it takes the pole pieces to settle with the swapped in magnets?

It's interesting how rough these are compared to the A2s that came out of the pickups originally. The A4s were pretty smooth.

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Re: New pickups for my Gibson faded SG

When I change magnets I notice a definite difference right away. Maybe it changes more over the first few days, or maybe it doesn't. I've never done any recordings to prove/disprove that school of thought.
 
Re: New pickups for my Gibson faded SG

When I swapped the A2 in the bridge for the A4 there was an immediately noticeable difference the neck swap wasn’t as drastic. Now they’ve been A4s longer than I had A2s in them so it’s hard to judge if the tone has evolved a little since the swap. I’m just kind of curious because I remember reading in one of the mag swap threads that the pole pieces hold on to some of the magnetic properties of the previous bar magnets. Not sure if that’s worded exactly in the most scientific way.
 
Re: New pickups for my Gibson faded SG

I notice a difference right away, too. If the poles hold some sort of residual power, I don't know if I'd hear it or can identify it.
 
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