Newbie..Need help matching neck pup to Duncan Distortion bridge

Re: Newbie..Need help matching neck pup to Duncan Distortion bridge

Yes it is. I used a Jazz in the neck before I switched to a 59 for my own reasons. With a good dirt pedal, it can get the blues part done right. As for the metal...


And why did you switch to the 59? Gets dirtier than the jazz huh....Id probly prefer that at I can clean it up with a volume knob a bit......
 
Re: Newbie..Need help matching neck pup to Duncan Distortion bridge

And why did you switch to the 59? Gets dirtier than the jazz huh....Id probly prefer that at I can clean it up with a volume knob a bit......
I like the 59s character more. Notes sound more smooth.
 
Re: Newbie..Need help matching neck pup to Duncan Distortion bridge

What sort of suggestion is that? Its a humbucker rout... why would you suggest a P90 that would require him to rout the guitar
My guitar tech perform the minor "operation" resulting in the best set of hot pups of any of my guitars. I have a stacked P90 at the neck and D distoriton at the bridge.....kind of like Tom Scholz' Les Paul. Just a preference.
 
Re: Newbie..Need help matching neck pup to Duncan Distortion bridge

My guitar tech perform the minor "operation" resulting in the best set of hot pups of any of my guitars. I have a stacked P90 at the neck and D distoriton at the bridge.....kind of like Tom Scholz' Les Paul. Just a preference.

Sorry but I just cant believe suggesting him to rout his guitar and pay for a custom shop pickup to get a tone that is easily found in a off the shelf humbucker makes sense.
 
Re: Newbie..Need help matching neck pup to Duncan Distortion bridge

I don't think there's a problem with a Jazz pickup sound not being hot enough in metal. It's more important that you get the insane bridge/crystal clean neck contrast done traditionally so well by the Jazz/JB and EMG 60/81 combos.

My main complaint against the 59 is that it is very bass heavy and does not cut through on the top end like the Jazz. But, a lot of people don't like the Jazz because they find it too bland and flat.

Something else to consider is what you plan to do with your neck pickup. Most guys in metal, me included, prefer to solo from the bridge and use the neck for cleans.

Where it gets more complicated is if you want to play warm cleans and solo from the neck. In that case you'll need a bit higher output neck pickup. But, a warm, "pushed" neck sound for distorted leads may not clean up as well as a less hot pickup. Getting this without getting muddy is key. Dave Murray's solo tones in Iron Maiden come to mind as far as a "hot" neck sound, but to my knowledge he's used stuff more along vintage lines (at various times Duncans and also DiMarzio vintage PAF and PAF Pro models).

My most important concern is clarity and definition. So I always try shoot for a slightly less hot pickup than what I think I'll need, and then use the amp if I need to dial in more of something. It would be easier for me to get more warmth from a Jazz with the amp, for example, than to make a 59 more articulate.

In these modern times of almost endless tone shaping in plugins and gear that alters tone later in the signal chain, I'd rather not be put into a straitjacket by a pickup voicing that I don't like. For that reason, I prefer a very flat, articulate pickup as a base line for tone and to add in color with the amp. You may disagree and, as always, your mileage may vary.

Well said. You make some great points. I guess like anything else there's always going to be a trade off, you just gotta figure out what you can live with and live without.

Thanks
 
Re: Newbie..Need help matching neck pup to Duncan Distortion bridge

My guitar tech perform the minor "operation" resulting in the best set of hot pups of any of my guitars. I have a stacked P90 at the neck and D distoriton at the bridge.....kind of like Tom Scholz' Les Paul. Just a preference.
Obviously you like it and are running it with a distortion bridge...what does that pick up give you that the 59 and jazz wont? Is it "the best of both worlds" kind of like having a 59 and a jazz all in one...lol?
 
Re: Newbie..Need help matching neck pup to Duncan Distortion bridge

A lot of "character" is about touch and pick attack that an amp, true, can't always supply. If the pickup doesn't react in a way you expect, it will actually affect your playing.

I played the 59n for about 5 mins and I knew it wasn't for me. I played with a Full Shred set for about 2 hours.

Sometimes the magic just happens like that.

Would a full shred neck work with a distortion bridge...and...what was it that you liked about ..in particular...the full shred neck pup that you didn't like about the 59?

Thanks!
 
Re: Newbie..Need help matching neck pup to Duncan Distortion bridge

I use a 59 neck pup and a Distortion bridge in a Epiphone SG. It's a great combo. As many have pointed out, the 59 has really smooth clean tones and the distortion is the best bridge pickup I've ever used. I wouldn't use a JB in the neck. Neck positions are naturally louder than bridge positions. The JB and Distortion have right around the same output and when you switch to the neck position, you're going to have a much louder neck position.
 
Re: Newbie..Need help matching neck pup to Duncan Distortion bridge

Pardon my ignorance but what is a "woman" tone??....

the "woman" tone is Clapton's cream-era tone. If I remember correctly, it was made with an early 60's SG through an old fender tube amp with the gain cranked way up and the tone volume rolled way back. go listen to "sunshine of your love" and you'll get it.
 
Re: Newbie..Need help matching neck pup to Duncan Distortion bridge

the "woman" tone is Clapton's cream-era tone. If I remember correctly, it was made with an early 60's SG through an old fender tube amp with the gain cranked way up and the tone volume rolled way back. go listen to "sunshine of your love" and you'll get it.

cool...nice ta know...
 
Re: Newbie..Need help matching neck pup to Duncan Distortion bridge

I like the SH-6n Distortion neck with the Distortion bridge, though I also find the Jazz neck also is a good pairing.
 
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