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Is the Vox Valvetronix AD100VTH 100-watt head newer than the AD120VTH 120-watt (60-watt stereo) head?
Newest Vox Valvetronix?
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Pepi
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Re: Newest Vox Valvetronix?
It is their newest lower-end model. The 120 is a different amp. Cost a lot more too
http://www.valvetronix.net/
KGMESSIER said:
It is their newest lower-end model. The 120 is a different amp. Cost a lot more too
http://www.valvetronix.net/
JumpMarine
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Re: Newest Vox Valvetronix?
Yes and it is a simpler amp.
Yes and it is a simpler amp.
Pink Unicorn Horsey
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Re: Newest Vox Valvetronix?
Forgetting about the difference in features for a moment, is there a difference in quality (tone, build, etc.)?
Forgetting about the difference in features for a moment, is there a difference in quality (tone, build, etc.)?
Pepi
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Re: Newest Vox Valvetronix?
Since you are looking to buy a head version you can throw out all the differences with speakers and cabinet materials. I believe the 120 uses 2 12AX7 tubes and the 100 only has one. If I still gigged I would go for the 120 due to all the presets available. I think it has 32 and the 100 only has 2 with a manual mode also. I'm sure both heads will give killer modeling sounds :banana:
KGMESSIER said:
Since you are looking to buy a head version you can throw out all the differences with speakers and cabinet materials. I believe the 120 uses 2 12AX7 tubes and the 100 only has one. If I still gigged I would go for the 120 due to all the presets available. I think it has 32 and the 100 only has 2 with a manual mode also. I'm sure both heads will give killer modeling sounds :banana:
ErikH
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Re: Newest Vox Valvetronix?
Yes, the 100 is a lot newer than the 120. The 120/60 have been out for several years now. The 100 is the newest in the "Silver" series Valvetronix line.
Both have one tube, a 12AX7 in the power amp. The amp models in the 100 are the same as in the 120, just fewer of them. The 120 also has modelled stompboxes and more amp models, cabinet selection, more storable presets, and costs about twice as much as the 100.
What I like is the simplicity of the "Silver" series without losing the great sounding models. What I also find interesting is the sampling rate in the newer Valvetronix amps is higher then the "Blue" amps.
If anyone is debating between the 50-watt combo and the 100-watt head, they have the same models and options, only difference being the output power and head/combo, although the 50-watter does have a speaker out.
Yes, the 100 is a lot newer than the 120. The 120/60 have been out for several years now. The 100 is the newest in the "Silver" series Valvetronix line.
Both have one tube, a 12AX7 in the power amp. The amp models in the 100 are the same as in the 120, just fewer of them. The 120 also has modelled stompboxes and more amp models, cabinet selection, more storable presets, and costs about twice as much as the 100.
What I like is the simplicity of the "Silver" series without losing the great sounding models. What I also find interesting is the sampling rate in the newer Valvetronix amps is higher then the "Blue" amps.
If anyone is debating between the 50-watt combo and the 100-watt head, they have the same models and options, only difference being the output power and head/combo, although the 50-watter does have a speaker out.
Pink Unicorn Horsey
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My local GC is bringing in a 120-watter for me to check out. If I like that one better than the one I've got, I can always swap 'em. I had no idea the silver series has a higher sampling rate than the blue series. How'd you find that out? I'd rather have fewer models of higher tonal quality.
- Keith
My local GC is bringing in a 120-watter for me to check out. If I like that one better than the one I've got, I can always swap 'em. I had no idea the silver series has a higher sampling rate than the blue series. How'd you find that out? I'd rather have fewer models of higher tonal quality.
- Keith
ErikH
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The complete specs of both series are on valvetronix.net and it's in the manuals for both from the Vox site too. The 120/60 amps have 20-bit signal processing (A/D and D/A). The Silver series have 24-bit signal processing.
The Blue (and sometimes called Gold because of the binding) also has the built-in tuner which is a nice touch. With as much stuff that they did pack in to those things, the tuner just had to be there. It's a complete rig for everything in one amp. Worth the extra money but my budget wouldn't allow it. I'm happy with the 50-watt combo.
The complete specs of both series are on valvetronix.net and it's in the manuals for both from the Vox site too. The 120/60 amps have 20-bit signal processing (A/D and D/A). The Silver series have 24-bit signal processing.
The Blue (and sometimes called Gold because of the binding) also has the built-in tuner which is a nice touch. With as much stuff that they did pack in to those things, the tuner just had to be there. It's a complete rig for everything in one amp. Worth the extra money but my budget wouldn't allow it. I'm happy with the 50-watt combo.
Gearjoneser
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Re: Newest Vox Valvetronix?
That tuner spoils me, since I rarely use my pedalboard with the Valvetronix, just for home practicing. I just leave it in tuner mode most of the time, so I can tune on the fly. That's one feature I wish EVERY amp had. I'd love to see tube amps start to implement the onboard tuner with 3 LED's. It's easy to see from a distance.
That tuner spoils me, since I rarely use my pedalboard with the Valvetronix, just for home practicing. I just leave it in tuner mode most of the time, so I can tune on the fly. That's one feature I wish EVERY amp had. I'd love to see tube amps start to implement the onboard tuner with 3 LED's. It's easy to see from a distance.
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great points made here; here are mine regarding these 2 models:
-you can buy a Boss tuner pedal to stay in tune (for convenience/portability)
-the look of the 120 VTH would blend in better and may look less like a modeler to the audience
-the pedal for the 100 watt VTH is: Options (sold separately): VFS2 dual foot switch...this pedal is not so ideal and only allows for 2 or three pedal buttons; I am not sure if any other pedals are compatible (see vox website/contact info)
great points made here; here are mine regarding these 2 models:
-you can buy a Boss tuner pedal to stay in tune (for convenience/portability)
-the look of the 120 VTH would blend in better and may look less like a modeler to the audience
-the pedal for the 100 watt VTH is: Options (sold separately): VFS2 dual foot switch...this pedal is not so ideal and only allows for 2 or three pedal buttons; I am not sure if any other pedals are compatible (see vox website/contact info)
ErikH
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Re: Newest Vox Valvetronix?
I still need to buy a Boss tuner pedal. To this day, after playing for almost 20 years, I have NEVER had one on my rig...EVER.
You can't tell that any of the Valvetronix amps - Gold or Silver series - are modellers without looking at the controls, which are on the top so the audience can't see them anyway - moot point.
Yes, the channel switcher for the Silver series is sold separately, and it doesn't have to be the Vox footswitch. Any 2-button footswitch will work. If you get the Vox VFS2, go to Radio Shack and get the 20-foot 1/4" male to 1/4" female stereo headphone extension cable - about $10. The one built on the footswitch is only about 7 feet long - too short.
I still need to buy a Boss tuner pedal. To this day, after playing for almost 20 years, I have NEVER had one on my rig...EVER.
You can't tell that any of the Valvetronix amps - Gold or Silver series - are modellers without looking at the controls, which are on the top so the audience can't see them anyway - moot point.
Yes, the channel switcher for the Silver series is sold separately, and it doesn't have to be the Vox footswitch. Any 2-button footswitch will work. If you get the Vox VFS2, go to Radio Shack and get the 20-foot 1/4" male to 1/4" female stereo headphone extension cable - about $10. The one built on the footswitch is only about 7 feet long - too short.
Pink Unicorn Horsey
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Re: Newest Vox Valvetronix?
It should be noted that the new Valvetronix amps allow you to store only two user-defined patches; hence the smaller footswitch. Whether you go with the older or newer Valvetronix amp, the (optional) footswitch is ridiculously priced at $250 +/- $30, depending on the model.
- Keith
Happy Dude said:
It should be noted that the new Valvetronix amps allow you to store only two user-defined patches; hence the smaller footswitch. Whether you go with the older or newer Valvetronix amp, the (optional) footswitch is ridiculously priced at $250 +/- $30, depending on the model.
- Keith
ErikH
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Re: Newest Vox Valvetronix?
Correction: Those outrageously priced footswitches are only for the Gold series (120/60) models. And it's because they have more features to control and expression pedals built in. The newer Silver series models use the VFS2 dual button which you can get for $25 to -$40 depending on where you shop. I got mine for $25 at a local shop (not GC).KGMESSIER said:
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the Vox VTX 120 looks a little more like the valve head:
http://www.voxamps.co.uk/products/ac30/ac_30cc.htm
...small point, but, at least none of the vox amps look like computers (or when on top of a full stack, robots)
the Vox VTX 120 looks a little more like the valve head:
http://www.voxamps.co.uk/products/ac30/ac_30cc.htm
...small point, but, at least none of the vox amps look like computers (or when on top of a full stack, robots)
ErikH
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Re: Newest Vox Valvetronix?
I love my AD50. The tone is amazing and at loud volumes, you just have to hear it.
Very true. They do resemble the valve heads very much. The new ones look like any other combo out there and sound better than a lot of them too.Happy Dude said:
I love my AD50. The tone is amazing and at loud volumes, you just have to hear it.
Pink Unicorn Horsey
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I don't care if my amp looks like someone crapped in a cardboard box, just as long as the tone is good.
I don't care if my amp looks like someone crapped in a cardboard box, just as long as the tone is good.
Pink Unicorn Horsey
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Unbelievable! The guy at GC told me the footswitch was $229. WTF???
ErikH said:
Unbelievable! The guy at GC told me the footswitch was $229. WTF???
Pink Unicorn Horsey
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Actually, the guy at GC told me the footswitch for the 60/120 series was $279. I repeat: WTF???
JeffB said:
Actually, the guy at GC told me the footswitch for the 60/120 series was $279. I repeat: WTF???
