NGD: 1986 Ibanez RG410 project

[Funkfingers]

Just arrived. For the price of a brand new Squier Affinity Stratocaster, one lightly abused 1986 Ibanez RG410 in an off-white Cream colour. Non-original Mighty Mite Motherbucker HB, massive 22k DC resistance. Suitable for shred, shred, two-handed tapping or shred.

The MM HB is already spoken for. I plan to replace it with a JB A2. I also intend to add a tone control pot.

The FR-licensed vibrato shows signs of damage near the knife point. (See lower pic.) Probably going to replace this with either an Ibanez FAT32 that I already have laying about or a Kahler Spider. Might just block the contraption off.

The dark mark in the fingerboard is a deep impact gouge. The ninth fret shows string impact digs. I reckon that this guitar either fell off its stand or something hard fell onto it. A fret dress will be first on the list.

 

[Ayrton]

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That should be an Ibanez Edge tremolo. You can get a replacement on ebay, and is light years ahead of anything else that might fit on there.

 

[TheLivingDead]

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Groovy! Those are sweet guitars. How are ya liking the overall feel of it?

 

[WhoFan]

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god that takes me "back"... wanted one like that in Black after seeing Back to The Future in 1986...

 

[Jessie's ghost]

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Holy Krap! It's a Kramer Kopy!

 

[Thieving Magpie]

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'86 marked the pinnacle of the RG line. The previous year's models had a grotesque locking trem and the following year's models made the move to pointed bodies and headstocks with thin, flat neck profiles. To me, the '86 models were the perfect marriage of tradition and innovation. Of course, I'm biased -- I've been playing an '86 RG440 for the past 21 years!

Let me know how the JB sounds. I've got an A2P in mine and it's almost there, it just needs a little more oomph to hide the basswood.

 

[Funkfingers]

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That should be an Ibanez Edge tremolo.

It is the Ibanez. My dismissive tone is because I have always preferred Kahler vibrato systems.

Groovy! Those are sweet guitars. How are ya liking the overall feel of it?

The guitar needs work but its potential is obvious.

that takes me "back".

Sad old farts, hoping to recapture some of their lost youth? Check!

Holy Krap! It's a Kramer Kopy!

Korrect!

'86 marked the pinnacle of the RG line. The previous year's models had a grotesque locking trem and the following year's models made the move to pointed bodies and headstocks with thin, flat neck profiles. To me, the '86 models were the perfect marriage of tradition and innovation. Of course, I'm biased -- I've been playing an '86 RG440 for the past 21 years!

Let me know how the JB sounds. I've got an A2P in mine and it's almost there, it just needs a little more oomph to hide the basswood.

UPDATE: 23:15 GMT
Just been trying my unmolested SH-4 (JBJ!) in the Ibanez (still with the cruddy old strings). Verrrry interesting. Through the Lead 2 channel of my Boogie Quad pre-amp / 20:20 power amp set up, the guitar rips. I still feel the urge to reach for a tone pot but I might be able to cure myself of this.

 

[Dr.K]

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You lucky old fart! That's not far from the one I look at a couple of weeks ago. I envy you!

 

[woemoejack]

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I had one like that, mine was metallic pink, chrome floyd and an SD Invader. is your volume pot a coil tap too? Mine wasn't a push pull, more like a button. Awesome guitar

 

[Funkfingers]

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You lucky old fart! That's not far from the one I look at a couple of weeks ago. I envy you!

Might even be the same one. :naughty:

I had one like that, mine was metallic pink, chrome floyd and an SD Invader. is your volume pot a coil tap too? Mine wasn't a push pull, more like a button. Awesome guitar

The RG410 volume pot includes a push-push switch. The stock wiring of this is for coil split.

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I am aiming for an Allan Holdsworth vibe. Hence, the JB A2 idea. I do have an SD AH humbucker but it is white. IMO, a double black HB will look better with the finish and hardware. My hope is that the JB A2 in this Basswood guitar will sound very like the AH HB in an Alder Fender USA Stratocaster.

Luckily for me, the Ibanez jack socket is a three contact TRS type. This means that onboard active citcuitry is a possibility. Could mean a Blackout Module pre-amp. Could mean using an active SD humbucker. Could mean using the old SD (semi-) Parametric Midrange EQ prototype cut/boost control. (The same device that Frank Zappa had on the blonde/maple Performance Stratocaster seen on the cover of his album, Guitar.)

 

[Funkfingers]

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UPDATE: This guitar has not been under my roof for forty eight hours and, already, somebody local has tried to make me an offer for it.

Ayrton, you were right. Even with cruddy old strings and a chunk missing down one side, the Edge vibrato stays in tune very well.

So far, I have found the SH-4 JB (JBJ) A5 to sound great through my Fender HR DeVille 410 and not so great through my Boogie rack stuff. Too raspy. A2 magnet swap coming up.

 

[Closed Eye]

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Suitable for shred, shred, two-handed tapping or shred.

So, wait, are you saying this guitar is capable of shredding?

 

[Funkfingers]

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So, wait, are you saying this guitar is capable of shredding?

Nope. I said that it is SUITABLE for shredding. (Several interpretations of this statement are available.)

Only the person playing an instrument is CAPABLE of shredding. CUE: Well-known Chet Atkins story. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Ends with Chet saying, "Well, it's not sounding so good now, is it?"

 

[Ayrton]

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The good news is that corner is not needed for anything other than looks, so no need to replace unless it bothers you.

Also, please know that the pivot studs are locking, and if you try and lower them locked, they will break.

This page will provide plenty of info/help

http://www.jemsite.com/jem/trems.htm#post

 

[Funkfingers]

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Thanks for the link. I have to confess that the Ibanez Edge is, indeed, far more ergonomic than the typical dogbreath Licensed FR clones that I have tried in the past.

The lump missing from the side of the bridge was largely a cosmetic concern, in case I decided to sell the guitar on for a quick profit. I shall probably leave it for now. I just want a guitar that I can take out to an open mic evening and have a blast.

As you can see from my photograph, the vendor was not in the habit of snipping off the recommended 30mm at the ball end before stringing up. Hopefully, the holder blocks will not have been damaged by this.

This guitar has only been under my roof a little over forty eight hours. I have already had one acquaintance make me an offer for it. All the more reason to hang on to it.