NGD - cheap SG copy

xntrick

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I have been GASing for an SG for some time now, big fan of Toni Iommi and i've wanted to add a hard tail to my collection. Don't have the funds for a Gibson due to working fewer hours at work for the past 18 months and i could only find one of the Epiphones comfortable but i didn't like the faded cherry finish nor did i like the trapezoid fret inlays. I was excited when the XV-300 was announced as i had the funds from selling a pedal and a few bike parts. Haven't had much playing time as i am under the weather a bit so here are my initial observations.

The case was very smelly when i first opened it. It's either from the foam or the fake velvet lining but it stinks!!!

The guitar is very light and when i compare it to my maple superstrat(about 10 lbs) it feels like a paperweight. I can't get over how straight the neck is and how comfortable the radius and the profile feel, most of the other SG type guitars all seemed to have wide and flat necks. The back of the neck is glossy but my hands do not stick to it, whereas the ESP Viper, the Epiphone SGs, and even the PRS Tremonti SE all have the problem with the glossy/sticky necks. The nut seems to be made of plastic and there was residual material hanging out over the fretboard from cutting the nut. The guitar is very resonant when played unplugged despite the very cheap strings, it took me a while to get it in tune and my left hand was covered in a dark oil when i was done playing. The pickups were hotter than i was expecting but hard to get a read on them due to the crappy strings. I did not notice easier picking due to the short scale but that may also be affected by the lousy strings. Because of the placement of the strap buttons the guitar will nose dive when you let go of it, switching to a different strap helps somewhat but i still found myself having to use my right forearm to hold the body down at playing level. Hopefully some of the regular SG players can recommend a good strap to fix that problem. Playing the 300 has given me a greater appreciation for the design of the strat as it has the tummy cut for your body and the forearm contour for your picking hand, i take my hat off to Leo Fender for those. Overall i'd have to say you get a lot of guitar for your money that is certainly on par with Epiphone.

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"SG" style guitars are neck heavy because the bodies are thinner/lighter, and most of the necks I've played are really thick.. You'll adjust to it, or try hanging it a little lower.. and change them strings man! HAHA.. may wanna wipe down that fretboard, get some of that "schmunda" off of there too.. I have a black "SG" which benefitted from a new set of pups.. I like the black gloss finish as it reminds me of Iommi too.. enjoy!
 
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I use a 2.5" wide leather strap with my SG, and the back of it is rough and sticks to my shirt enough to mostly keep the whole thing from shifting around too much.
 
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never heard of xavier, but looks neat.

I did have an lp copy once (EKO) that was neck-heavy and even sitting down I had to hold up the neck with force to keep it from falling over. ended up getting the boot.

biggest issue I've found with cheapies is getting them to stay in tune - any issues there?
 
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never heard of xavier, but looks neat.

I did have an lp copy once (EKO) that was neck-heavy and even sitting down I had to hold up the neck with force to keep it from falling over. ended up getting the boot.

biggest issue I've found with cheapies is getting them to stay in tune - any issues there?

i put a new set of strings on there and once they were played in the tuning is surprisingly very stable, i still want to change the tuners as locking tuners makes it so much easier to change strings..the discoloration i was getting is from the fretboard, hopefully it isn't some toxic chemical...
 
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i put a new set of strings on there and once they were played in the tuning is surprisingly very stable, i still want to change the tuners as locking tuners makes it so much easier to change strings..the discoloration i was getting is from the fretboard, hopefully it isn't some toxic chemical...

My guess it's the frets rather then the wood
 
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just goes to show.

you don't always need an expensive guitar to find what you want. :)

hope you enjoy it man :)

yeah get a cloth and wipe off the frets and fretboard, and yeah for god sake change the strings!!! :lol: get some EB's or something for it.

EDIT: put my .02 in this.

My Vintage V100 model is a LP copy. It does sound fanstic, the neck is wonderful, the Pickups are pretty good for that traditional LP sound, although my MightyMite Motherbucker is currently sat in the bridge. The finish is great, even looks like a Gibson! the only thing it needs is the neck readjusting and a good set up. I have tuning issues but only because one of the mahineheads is either loose or damaged so my matte at the shop can deal with it.... apart from that is is a great guitar!
 
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Updated with new pickups, the phat cat/mean 90 sound so much better but i am curious to try the Iommis i have coming in the mail.

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I always hear this theroy of SGs being neck heavy. How can 1 1/2 pounds of neck be heavier than 6 pounds of body? The problem on these style SGs (early 60s style) is the position of the strap button. This is why Iommi moves it to the top horn. SG standards with the longer heel/neck joint are very well balanced due to the strap button being about an inch and a half higher (closer to the headstock). So if neckdive is a big problem for you, move that strap button.
 
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The Iommi pickups are something. Very unique sound. I reccomend using 500K pots on them or they sound kinda bad. You will definitely get the Sabbath sound from them, even though I bet those single coils do Sabbath pretty good too.
 
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That thing looks cool. I love how SG's look - my fiance even said it looks sexy from over my shoulder. LOL she's standing there naked.
 
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