NGD! i accidentally made a shortscale strat lol

[dazedandconfused001]

ok so i ordered some parts from GFS but i ordered the neck without lookin too much so i got a 24.75in neck luckily it worked (pics later) one crappy paint job and some gfs pickups later and i have reinvented the crap-o-caster (https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?327609-NGD-Crapocaster&highlight=crapocaster)
also had to buy new washers [and double them up] cuz the headstock on the shorter neck was too thin for the tuners i had AND the high e kept wanting to pop out so had to hairtie it down but it works! evidence of it working is in ep23 of my two minutes of music stuff in tips and clips

 

[Chistopher]

Re: NGD! i accidentally made a shortscale strat lol

Ackshually...

24.75" is not considered short scale. Short scale for electrics is 24" or less.

Nit picking aside, a Gibson scale Strat with humbuckers is bound to be very interesting tonally speaking, and might help you down the path of figuring out exactly how much wood, as well as scale length, affects the tone of your ax.

 

[Jacew]

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Ackshually...

24.75" is not considered short scale. Short scale for electrics is 24" or less.

Nit picking aside, a Gibson scale Strat with humbuckers is bound to be very interesting tonally speaking, and might help you down the path of figuring out exactly how much wood, as well as scale length, affects the tone of your ax.

Not really, when there's nothing to compare it to...

Sorry for nitpicking Sounds great build! Waiting for pictures...

 

[Chistopher]

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Not really, when there's nothing to compare it to...

You could compare it to the guitars Fender advertises as short scale, which are all 24" or less.

 

[Silence Kid]

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I think you want something more consistent than a hair tie. You just bought a new neck; freaking treat yourself to a string tree or proper filed nut.

I don't know about GFS 24.75" scale necks; I assume it is meant as a conversion neck for Strats?

 

[Gtrjunior]

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I know Warmoth and other aftermarket parts distributors sell Gibson scale necks for Strats, so it’s not altogether uncommon.

 

[Chistopher]

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Could you get it to intonate properly with the new scale length?

 

[jeremy]

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fenders traditional strat scale is 25.5" so id say a 24.75" strat is short scale. anyway... i have a mij squire strat with 24.75" scale and it sounds different than any of my other strats but there are enough other construction differences its hard to say what the significant factors are.

 

[Masta' C]

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fenders traditional strat scale is 25.5" so id say a 24.75" strat is short scale.

This

 

[Chistopher]

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24.75" is a shorter scale than 25.5", yes, but it is not a short scale. Given 24.75" accounts for nearly half the electric guitar market, I'd call it an average scale length.

But all this means nothing if the bridge is unable to intonate properly. But given the "workhorse" aesthetic of the guitar, using longer screws for the saddles might actually look pretty neat.

 

[jeremy]

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when talking about a strat, 24.75 is short scale. for a lp 24.75 is standard. when someone says strat, i always assume 25.5 just like when they say gibson i assume 24.75

 

[Masta' C]

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24.75" is a shorter scale than 25.5", yes, but it is not a short scale. Given 24.75" accounts for nearly half the electric guitar market, I'd call it an average scale length.

So PRS is "long scale" and Fender is "Extra Long Scale" then? Funny, you never hear them referred to that way!

Relative to standard Strats, 24.75" is "short scale".

Furthermore, in modern guitar forum vernacular, "short scale" generally refers to guitars closer to Gibson's 24.75" scale and "long scale" refers to Fender-esque scale lengths. Plenty of examples supporting these particular uses of the terms abound.

I get what you're saying about scale lengths shorter than commonly found lengths being more properly "short", but I kind of think you're arguing here just to argue

 

[Chistopher]

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Let me clarify for y'all knuckleheads. In the grand world of guitars, ≤25.5" or ≥24.75 is standard for electrics. Less than that range is shortscale. Anyone who can't see this point is beyond my help.

 

[dazedandconfused001]

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okay not even gonna touch the 'is 24.75 shortscale' argument much other than saying i meant relative to fenders norms 24.75 is shorter than normal but felt calling a shorterscale neck was a bit odd.

I think you want something more consistent than a hair tie. You just bought a new neck; freaking treat yourself to a string tree or proper filed nut.

I don't know about GFS 24.75" scale necks; I assume it is meant as a conversion neck for Strats?

well it was less a treat myself and more of a why wont this ****ing work!?! i used staggered tuners specifically so i didnt have to use string trees and as far as a new nut goes didnt have one on hand and didnt wanna destring seeing as how i only had one pack of strings left and am far to impatient to wait on shipping. as far as gfs selling a gubson scale strat neck i bought it from the clearance sale/factory blowout section for like $40 and assumed it was the same spec as the other one i wanted that sold out befor i had the money so i just (like an idiot) clicked buy before reading.

Could you get it to intonate properly with the new scale length?

surprisingly yes worked fine with everything as is no longer screws needed

 

[dazedandconfused001]

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ok i promised pics and have no more excuses so without further ado and with terrible lighting included i bring to you the new and kinda sorta improved crapocaster



















also idk why but for some reason the middle pickup is alot louder and fuller than the other 2 i used a gfs kwikplug system so idk

 

[ScreaminEsp]

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The hair tie sets it off.

 

[Chistopher]

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Neat headstock "decal". What type of paint did you end up using?

 

[dazedandconfused001]

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The hair tie sets it off.

why thank you i thought it would tie it all together

 

[dazedandconfused001]

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Neat headstock "decal". What type of paint did you end up using?

big can of krylon brand spray paint from walmart bought for less than $5. woulda turned out better but i leftit outside and bugs flew into it and i put to many heavy coats on and it dripped baaaad. i feel a sharpie was the perfect headstock design choice along with mispelling believe

 

[ItsaBass]

Re: NGD! i accidentally made a shortscale strat lol

Ackshually...

24.75" is not considered short scale. Short scale for electrics is 24" or less.

Nit picking aside, a Gibson scale Strat with humbuckers is bound to be very interesting tonally speaking, and might help you down the path of figuring out exactly how much wood, as well as scale length, affects the tone of your ax.

Let me clarify for y'all knuckleheads. In the grand world of guitars, ≤25.5" or ≥24.75 is standard for electrics. Less than that range is shortscale. Anyone who can't see this point is beyond my help.

Firstly, there are no universally accepted industry standards for what constitutes a long scale, medium scale, or short scale guitar. Any manufacturer or builder can use highly relative terminology if that's what they feel like doing.

Secondly, understanding that there are no actual standards, it is largely accepted by guitar makers that anything below standard mid-25" scale is not considered a full scale, A.K.A. "long scale" guitar. Just because few electric guitarists know this, and because there are lots of 24.75" guitars out there, does not make it any less true.

Thirdly, and most importantly, the guitar in question most certainly is a short-scale Strat, which is the terminology the OP used. Regardless of industry norms for scale length terminology, any Strat shorter than 25.5" scale is a short-scale Strat. If he had said it is a short-scale guitar, there would be a little more room for your argument (though you would still be wrong - just less wrong)...but that is not what he said.

FWIW, I don't consider Gibsons to be full-scale guitars. I think of them as medium scale, and often refer to them as "shorter scale" in conversation.

If you're gonna act like a jerk, at least be right in what you are arguing. Nobody should care too much if someone here is wrong or right on some technical point...but when they throw that wrongness around with a bad attitude, then uh uh.