NGD - Info needed from Patrick Eggle Experts please!

[Brow]

Hey guys.

Just thought I'd show a few quick photos of a guitar I picked up today:

You can't really see it in the headstock pic but all it says is 'Patrick Eggle Guitar Builder'.

From what I can tell it's an Eggle Climaxe, but there may have been a few different versions so this is a guess! :lol:

The only bits of info I can find on this guitar are here:

http://patrickeggleguitars.org/pg/climaxe1.jpg
http://patrickeggleguitars.org/pg/climaxe2.jpg
http://patrickeggleguitars.org/pg/climaxe3.jpg

The guitar needs a complete setup and a good clean down (some of the frets are slightly rusty!), but for what I got it for I think it was a bit of a steal.

I can't really give too much of an opinion on it at the minute as the strings are dead as anything, but I'm mainly fishing for info on it at the moment. So hopefully an Eggle expert will chime in soon!

Thanks.

 

[stevie_bees]

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They were the forerunners to the Berlin guitars I believe.

 

[Brow]

Re: NGD - Info needed from Patrick Eggle Experts please!

They were the forerunners to the Berlin guitars I believe.

Hey Stevie!

How are you?

That's also about the only bit of info the guy I bought it from seemed to know too.

The link I posted to said it's an ash body with a 'anegree' face/cap on it. It doesn't sound like that to me, seems more a Mahogany body/Maple neck sorta thing. Hence my request for more info

 

[JeffB]

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I can't help ya with that particular guitar (never see nor heard of one), but the back is either Ash or Japanese Sen (unlikely if not built in japan). It's def not mahogany (of any type).

The top is cool- nice flame, almost looks like flamed sycamore in spots- but IDT it's sycamore.

 

[LesStrat]

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Schweeettttt!

 

[Diocletian]

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I remember reading about these guitars about 15 years ago - they were about on a par with the PRS guitars of the time - possibly even better, and I believe cost even more. I'm sure they were all hand built. I don't think he makes electrics any more, just acoustics.

I'm pretty certain you've got an awesome guitar there but I'm going on hazy memories from when I was about 15, reading Guitarist magazine.
EDIT - I just looked at your links, they're from an old Guitarist magazine!

 

[stevie_bees]

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Hey Stevie!

How are you?

That's also about the only bit of info the guy I bought it from seemed to know too.

The link I posted to said it's an ash body with a 'anegree' face/cap on it. It doesn't sound like that to me, seems more a Mahogany body/Maple neck sorta thing. Hence my request for more info

I'm good mate thanks! Glad to be back home.

Looks like you got yourself a sweet axe there. You've had a pretty good run lately on guitar purchases! I must say from the pics, it's looks like an ash body, but I couldn't guess at the top.

 

[Brow]

Re: NGD - Info needed from Patrick Eggle Experts please!

I can't help ya with that particular guitar (never see nor heard of one), but the back is either Ash or Japanese Sen (unlikely if not built in japan). It's def not mahogany (of any type).

The top is cool- nice flame, almost looks like flamed sycamore in spots- but IDT it's sycamore.

It's made in the UK, so I'd probably say it's Ash of those 2 you mentioned. The Guitarist Magazine review linked to said it was Ash too, but it doesn't sound like it to me, hence my original scepticism

Schweeettttt!

Thanks mate

I remember reading about these guitars about 15 years ago - they were about on a par with the PRS guitars of the time - possibly even better, and I believe cost even more. I'm sure they were all hand built. I don't think he makes electrics any more, just acoustics.

I'm pretty certain you've got an awesome guitar there but I'm going on hazy memories from when I was about 15, reading Guitarist magazine.
EDIT - I just looked at your links, they're from an old Guitarist magazine!

That reveiw I linked to said they were originally around £860 in 1991, which seems expensive, but I don't know how that stacks up against a PRS at the time.

I'm good mate thanks! Glad to be back home.

Looks like you got yourself a sweet axe there. You've had a pretty good run lately on guitar purchases! I must say from the pics, it's looks like an ash body, but I couldn't guess at the top.

Thanks mate.

Yeah, have had a busy year with guitars. It's kinda got out of hand really, but how can I resist when they more or less drop in my lap

 

[BloodRose]

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I dont know any details other than I recall that these are supposed to be stellar axes! Congrats!

 

[Gearjoneser]

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NGD is now cemented in the annals of rock history! LOL

I wonder why more Patrick Eggle's don't end up in the States? Never seen one.

 

[stevie_bees]

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NGD is now cemented in the annals of rock history! LOL

I wonder why more Patrick Eggle's don't end up in the States? Never seen one.

Cos we keep them all hidden from you!!!

 

[Brow]

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Thanks guys.

I'm still waiting on a reply from Patrick Eggle himself to see what else I can find out about this guitar. There's next to no information about it on the net from what I can find (or not in this case).

NGD is now cemented in the annals of rock history! LOL

I wonder why more Patrick Eggle's don't end up in the States? Never seen one.

I don't know why more of them didn't go to the States, but they did an anniversary (I think) edition that was purely for the US market.

 

[Brow]

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Ok, an update (kind of):

I've taken the PEG to my tech tonight when I picked up my PRS and V and it turns out that he had this guitar on his bench about 10 years ago from a previous owner! Said it was the only 1 he'd seen and he's never seen 1 since.

The guys done a great job with my PRS and V, so I have high hopes

 

[jc0r]

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Howdy, just thought i'd sign up to give you a bit more information about Eggle guitars. I don't know a great deal about the particular guitar you have and thats probably due to the fact i believe your guitar came out in the very first year of them being in business.

Patrick Eggle are a West Midlands (UK) based company and are still going to this day. Back in about 1992 (when i was 10!) my guitar teacher at the time (Steve Makin, great bloke played for many of the best, Birmingham City fan too! ) was endoresed by them. I remember him gettin a Berlin off them with the craziest curly maple top. They were aiming for really high end stuff and pretty much from the get go they produced guitars which were blatent lookalikes of PRS. Instead of bird inlays though they used Maple Leaves and obviously the headstock was slightly different.

When i was 16 i did some work experience in what was then Europes biggest guitar store, Musical Exchanges, Birmingham. I remember some of the guys in the shop frowning upon the guitars slightly as i suppose these were kinda like rip offs of the real thing? Even still though, they are great instruments. Eggle most popular instruments were the Berlin, Vienna and Los Angeles. I never knew of them making a Floyd Rose guitar, so i guess you're guitar was almost like a prototype for the Berlin/Vienna model which might explain the headstock difference compared to standard Eggle guitars.

Its founder/luthier was a guy called Patrick James Eggle (suprisingly enough!) but he left the firm in 1994 and went to live in the US. He's now back in the UK though and makes extremely high end acoustic guitars only under the name Patrick James Eggle Guitars (http://www.eggle.co.uk) as to not confuse his brand with the still existing Patrick Eggle electric guitars who operate out of Nuneaton.

As for the wood used on your guitar, i can't comment on the back althought it does look like Ash to me, but i noticed someone said Sycamore which is pretty much what the US calls Maple. Theres a strong chance of this as I dug out an old magazine (Guitarist, UK) as i remembered seeing a new Eggle guitar about a year ago which i remembered used Sycamore throughout. I remember it becuase the top was such a nice colour! Their new stuff can be found on their website and the guitar i was talking about inparticular is http://www.patrickeggleguitars.com/newwavestage.html. Note that they say the guitar is made from Maple, but im pretty sure it is European Sycamore.

 

[jc0r]

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Thought i'd scan in the article and throw it on my webspace from Guitarist which confirms some of the stuff i've already said an may shed a little more light onto the whole Eggle thing. Hope you enjoy!

Also, what sort of band you looking for? How old are you?

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[jmh151]

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I believe Patrick Eggle made a few guitars for Toni Iommi as well.

 

[Brow]

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Hey jc0r.

Thanks for all the info. I'll have a read of it and see if it casts anymore light on my Eggle.

On an unrelated note, my Gordon Smith Graduate 60 (LP Style) has a Mahogany body with a Sycamore cap (instead of maple) and, to my ears atleast, it seems a little darker sounding than my other LP style guitars.

Here's an updated pic of it:

I believe Patrick Eggle made a few guitars for Toni Iommi as well.

Iommi had a signature model from Eggle for a while. It wasn't SG shaped, but was a fair bit different from anything else they made at the time if I remember correctly.

 

[stevie_bees]

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Well Craig, if you ever want rid of it, give me a call!!!

 

[Brow]

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Well Craig, if you ever want rid of it, give me a call!!!

PM sent!

 

[cream123]

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looks beautiful but i'm still wondering what NGD means....