NGD: The Gold Standard
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Yes, that's correct. Except, nobody forces anyone to shop there.
Yes, that's correct. Except, nobody forces anyone to shop there.
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Yes you are correct...the seller IS responsible. And in this case they DID take that responsibility seriously. I also honor any of my advertised prices no matter who may have made a pricing mistake.
However, you are confusing the issue of "legally 'ethical'" and "morally ethical". The meaning of ethics goes way further than just abiding by any LEGAL parameters.
Yes you are correct...the seller IS responsible. And in this case they DID take that responsibility seriously. I also honor any of my advertised prices no matter who may have made a pricing mistake.
However, you are confusing the issue of "legally 'ethical'" and "morally ethical". The meaning of ethics goes way further than just abiding by any LEGAL parameters.
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That's right, you never asked for my support nor my moral narrative. Neither does a thief ASK to be caught.
For your information, I AM a retailer and have been one for longer than you have been able to look up any info on the internet or read a dictionary. I absolutely know about the laws. And I probably know a whole lot more about retailers than YOU. I sell a lot of products and services at a loss knowing that I will make it up on other products and services. BUT, this is totally by my choice, not by law, not by extortion, and certainly not by a customer bullying me. I was looking at the potential options for the seller, not the buyer.
And you are mistaken about the MEANING of ethics. Yes the definition is..."Ethics is defined as a moral philosophy or code of morals practiced by a person or group of people". The key words here are "morals" and "practiced" and the inference that ethics is dependent on the actions (as in "practiced") of a particular group of people. Therefore there can not be a precise definition because it can be different for different groups of people and in different times. It is ever-changing. The group of people (usually from Nigeria) who scam people out of thousands of dollars would, by definition, be very ethical in what they do...even though we may consider it taking advantage of people and outright stealing. Gangs who practice their street knockout games with the result of death of their victims sometimes can also be considered "ethical" by this definition even though we would consider it first degree murder.
But you ENTIRELY missed the point of it not being "right" from a moral standpoint
And you'll notice that in my post I was not directing my comments to YOU. But now, that I am hearing your particular rationalization for your "purchase" and your attack on me for my morals, I most certainly am.
That's right, you never asked for my support nor my moral narrative. Neither does a thief ASK to be caught.
For your information, I AM a retailer and have been one for longer than you have been able to look up any info on the internet or read a dictionary. I absolutely know about the laws. And I probably know a whole lot more about retailers than YOU. I sell a lot of products and services at a loss knowing that I will make it up on other products and services. BUT, this is totally by my choice, not by law, not by extortion, and certainly not by a customer bullying me. I was looking at the potential options for the seller, not the buyer.
And you are mistaken about the MEANING of ethics. Yes the definition is..."Ethics is defined as a moral philosophy or code of morals practiced by a person or group of people". The key words here are "morals" and "practiced" and the inference that ethics is dependent on the actions (as in "practiced") of a particular group of people. Therefore there can not be a precise definition because it can be different for different groups of people and in different times. It is ever-changing. The group of people (usually from Nigeria) who scam people out of thousands of dollars would, by definition, be very ethical in what they do...even though we may consider it taking advantage of people and outright stealing. Gangs who practice their street knockout games with the result of death of their victims sometimes can also be considered "ethical" by this definition even though we would consider it first degree murder.
But you ENTIRELY missed the point of it not being "right" from a moral standpoint
And you'll notice that in my post I was not directing my comments to YOU. But now, that I am hearing your particular rationalization for your "purchase" and your attack on me for my morals, I most certainly am.
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Securb
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Dude are you for real? If you do not approve of the purchase don't open the thread and comment. Are you that much of a head case that you think I care WTF you think.
Please post a link to your Etsy page I would like to buy some crochet oven mitts.
Dude are you for real? If you do not approve of the purchase don't open the thread and comment. Are you that much of a head case that you think I care WTF you think.
Please post a link to your Etsy page I would like to buy some crochet oven mitts.
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Interesting...
I'd like to say that I am behind this intricately complex and ethical-landmine purchase decision 100%.
I'll bet many nights were spent lying awake, sweating bullets over the moral conundrum... "should I?" "why not?" "maybe I shouldn't" "nahh..."
In summation, to use a quote from a movie that should have won not one, but at least two Oscars for Best Actor(s):
Interesting...
I'd like to say that I am behind this intricately complex and ethical-landmine purchase decision 100%.
I'll bet many nights were spent lying awake, sweating bullets over the moral conundrum... "should I?" "why not?" "maybe I shouldn't" "nahh..."
In summation, to use a quote from a movie that should have won not one, but at least two Oscars for Best Actor(s):
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
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UPS said it is getting delivered today buy the end of the day but the shipping information hasn't updated. I am going to hang out at work and get some work done until 6. If it is not here by then I am going home pissed. I have appointments all day tomorrow so I will be out when we get our usual UPS delivery. UPS online keeps saying it is one town over.
UPS said it is getting delivered today buy the end of the day but the shipping information hasn't updated. I am going to hang out at work and get some work done until 6. If it is not here by then I am going home pissed. I have appointments all day tomorrow so I will be out when we get our usual UPS delivery. UPS online keeps saying it is one town over.
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One of Jerry's Kids
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My boss just stopped by my office he is waiting on a powered speaker for his keyboard setup. He is a bit ticked with UPS right now himself. I am not waiting here until 8, no way.
My boss just stopped by my office he is waiting on a powered speaker for his keyboard setup. He is a bit ticked with UPS right now himself. I am not waiting here until 8, no way.
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If it said out on truck I would have waited around. I have little faith in UPS.
I am home on my sofa sans-Les Paul. If it doesn't get delivered tomorrow...there will be blood.
If it said out on truck I would have waited around. I have little faith in UPS.
I am home on my sofa sans-Les Paul. If it doesn't get delivered tomorrow...there will be blood.
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