Off center locking nut problem

[Manix]

Hi guys;
I just received my Ltd Alexi-600 and realized locking nut is off center towards treble side.So high e is closer to the edge of fretboard. Its not that bad but im pretty anal about these things I loosened the screws and tried to move the nut but didnt worked .So only solution is fill the old holes and drill new ones?:?:
Here some photos

Also as you see nut is smaller than the neck, its normal or they put the wrong one?

Note:Guitar is not new and i even bought it from another country so no guarantee option.

 

[Manix]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

Btw i checked the nut and it says br2, so if that means r2 its 42 mm and correct nut.So off centered holes are definetly the problem.Anybody help me about this? =)

 

[kramersteen]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

Wow thats a shame man. Guess your only option is to plug the holes with dowel and drill the holes in the right spots.

At closer inspection that nut doesn't look original. When the nut is off are the holes equal distance from the edge of the neck and centered?

And i was just thinking, You could make the mounting holes on the nut slightly oval with a rasp. That way you could push it into the right area than screw it down. I haven't done this but i don't see why it wouldn't work?

 

[Manix]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

Thanks for replying man , i was kinda sad that no one replied
I checked and took some photos;

Holes seems centered though

I measured the nut and its 41 mm( dont know how accurate my ruler is.) So new nut should solve the problem?

 

[kramersteen]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

Thanks for replying man , i was kinda sad that no one replied
I checked and took some photos;

Holes seems centered though

I measured the nut and its 41 mm( dont know how accurate my ruler is.) So new nut should solve the problem?

I suspect a dodgy nut, do the same measurement on the nut and see if that's the problem. I guess it has to be.

Yep most likely you will need a new nut.

 

[Manix]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

I measured it , nut slot is 42 mm, nut is 4 1 mm.But when i get a 42 mm nut its gonna push to low E to edge more but high e still will be at edge of the fretboard?Or it will correct the high e too?
Also original floyd nuts vs other ones matters? I dont have access to the original in my country , only option is from ebay.
Thanks

 

[kramersteen]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

I measured it , nut slot is 42 mm, nut is 4 1 mm.But when i get a 42 mm nut its gonna push to low E to edge more but high e still will be at edge of the fretboard?Or it will correct the high e too?
Also original floyd nuts vs other ones matters? I dont have access to the original in my country , only option is from ebay.
Thanks

I dopnt think so just make sure you get the right nut.

I don't really know all that much about replacement types. I would think a schaller or gotoh or something would be your best bet.

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[Funkfingers]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

FR nut/clamps come in a wide range of fractionally different sizes. Measure what width of string spacing you desire. Order that size.

 

[Manix]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

Ok thanks man, first i will try a Korean made 42 mm one, if thing doesnt work gonna order some Original ones from ebay.

 

[Manix]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

Btw a friend of mine is at UK and will return here in 1 week so im gonna order the nut from him but choosing the right one is so confuising;
There are
Schaller ones R3 and R4 same 42.86 width but different spacing i guess
and gotoh 43 mm
No name ones have 42mm but Schaller and gotoh dont have 42 mm ,weird :?:
Which one would you guys recommend? On the esp site it only says 42 mm locking nut , no more info.

 

[Dr. Vegetable]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

I have an Ibanez RGT with this problem - the nut is offset a mm or two toward the low E side of the neck. I don't even notice it when playing, so haven't fussed with fixing it yet. It's a daily player.

Keep us posted on how you make out.

 

[Manix]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

I have an Ibanez RGT with this problem - the nut is offset a mm or two toward the low E side of the neck. I don't even notice it when playing, so haven't fussed with fixing it yet. It's a daily player.

Keep us posted on how you make out.

Sure i will, there are lots of dudes with this problem,especially on Jacksons(and Gibson if we count non locking nuts too) from what ive seen with a little web research.

 

[constant mesh]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

Is that a bolt-on? If so, before you replace the nut, you can try shifting the neck. Let's assume this guitar was alright out of the factory, but someone took off the neck at some point and didn't care to evaulate it afterwards.

Have a friend hold down the guitar down on a table in playing position (probably hard to do with a V-shape this Alexi git is), undo the neck screws just a tad and push the neck downwards or upwards (pay attention to what it does in either direction) and tighten the screws while holding it in position. You can immediately tell if it's solvable or not because you will feel some play in the neck pocket as you try to shift it. You don't need a second person if you have a luthier's or carpenter's vice.

This is very common on basses and some guitars too.

 

[Manix]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

Sadly it is neck thru But thats a good advice can use it if a bolt on needs it.
I found a 42 mm Korean nut, when it arrives im gonna inform you guys how it turns out.

 

[constant mesh]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

Dang. Make sure even though holes seem to be centered well, they might be drilled at an angle. Put the screws back in only, are they sticking up straight?

 

[vinta9e]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

I highly recommend the use of calipers for measuring nuts. A ruler is only good enough for wieners, lol.

Redo the screw holes in the neck and do not touch the nut because if you ef it up, it's fubar. Finding a replacement in the exact size and finish might prove more difficult than you think. I do not consider having the strings slightly towards the bass side a problem, but a feature. How far does the nut stick out from the neck?

 

[Manix]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

Dont have calipers , but indeed my ruler is ****ty lol.It doesnt stick out from one side, its smaller than the neck 1 mm so its flush at treble side and 1 mm inside at the bass side.Im gonna try the new 42 mm nut anyway.

 

[constant mesh]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

I'd plug the holes with dowels and redrill. You'll be playing tomorrow evening, but a nut from Korea will take some time to reach you

I can see the truss rod channel on one of the picture and if it is centered or just barely, I am sure the holes are off. The left one is closer to the channel than the right one or so it seems.

Make sure you double check, don't just spend your money on spares you might not need.

 

[Manix]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

By i mean Korea its made in Korea haha lol my bad . nut is pretty cheap and im actually scared to redrill holes on a new guitar with a friggin drill even though im handy If i need to do it , i stick toothpicks to hole with glue, cut the excess and redrill right? Or i should let a luthier do it.

 

[kramersteen]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

Ok i am up. I don't understand why you couldn't rasp out the nut mounting holes to an oval shape? then you could align it right and screw it down using the existing holes. No harm done.