Official Homebrew Amp Thread

jerryjg

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GOT HOMEBREW?
I've had two techs build me two different homebrew amps.
The one pictured is a Bogen CHB35 100 WATT PA amplifier designed around a proven Circuit.
It sounds very very good dirty. The cleans arent great.
It almost gets a early Led Zepplin sound through the right speakers. I'm very very pleased with this amp my buddy built.
QUOTE-(from a guitar forum )"There is an excellent article on Geofex about converting PA amps to guitar use. It involves cascading the gain stages to get a fair amount of preamp gain, rewiring the tone stack to values suitable for a guitar and changing input/outputs for guitar use. If you do all that, and the amp you choose has tubes with decent tone you can make yourself a nice all-tube for almost no money"_END QUOTE. That's why there's so many of them selling on ebay these days, there's becoming a market for guitarists wanting to do this.Apparentyl Terry Kath , the legendary Chicago guiatist wasa proponont of Bogens.
Anyone else built or had any homebrew amp experience?
I will also post a pic to the Bogen ampbuilders page ICAOII>.
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[/IMG] FROM A Vintage Tube Amp tech- QUOTE-This involves converting old tube hifi and P.A. amplifiers

for use as guitar amplifiers. In general, I will need to bring the amplifier back up to factory spec first. Then, when the amplifier is again working correctly, I will modify the input stage to work correctly with a guitar and will also,upon request add additional gain stages as well as a master volume to give the user the same flexibility as found in any purpose made master volume guitar amplifier. I can go as far as you want. I can essentially gut the chassis and build a whole new amp or just modify the input stage so it works correctly with a guitar as the source. Many times these old P.A. amps can be had for under $100.00. They can be totally refurbished for about the same cost as a hi-fi amp rebuild, and then you can use them with the gain and drive they have or have an extra gain stage added to get searing overdrive at the twist of a knob. I have had great success doing this and it offers the musician on a budget, who may already have an old tube P.A. amp just collecting dust a way of getting in to t he classic sound of tubes without the huge price tag normally associated with modern production 'boutique' amps. Most of these old P.A. amps were designed to run all day long and were built tough. I can also modify the phono preamps of old mono hifi amps so that they will sound good with a guitar. Although not as tough as a vintage P.A. amp, these old hi-fi amps sound real nice. I design my own gain stages and because I am so familiar with the way tube amps work, I can easily modify existing tone control and high gain stages to work real good in a guitar amplification application. So, if you are tired of seeing that black face Fender or vintage Marshall go for about three times what you can afford on Ebay, you might want to consider buying something like an old tube Bogen P.A. amp and having me rebuild the amp and modify it for guitar use for you._END QUOTE
http://www.schematicheaven.com/hifi.htm
http://www.uglyamps.com/bogen.htm
 
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Well, I've never done it though I'd like to eventually but I'd like to do it myself... when I get good enough for that.

I think yours looks pretty cool man... enjoy it!
 
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I'm at a loss for words. I don't have a homebrew, but after reading the tech's description I'm considering looking for an old P.A. and having it modified.









you suck.:)
 
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you suck.:)

Thanks guys. Nice of you to say. I think. :-)
Hopeing we get a responce from Rich T.( OOPS...EDIT I meant Rich_S...sorry! ) who has some good 1st hand knowledge about these mods.
 
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I just threw that in cuz of your post. I have been semi-gassing for a tube amp, I haven't figured out how to go about getting one (or even what to get), this thread may have helped a bit.
 
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I just threw that in cuz of your post. I have been semi-gassing for a tube amp, I haven't figured out how to go about getting one (or even what to get), this thread may have helped a bit.

No worries man. I set myself up for that one ! hahah.
I would encourage you to do it. Youve gotta find the right tech. On my other PA conversion (see pic)I got a nice PA amp(LaFayette) that looked real good. I got it as part of a gear swap. My tech gutted the entire circuit , started from scratch. HE rebised the amp with new and difeferent tubes (6L6's nstead of the EL34's in it originally) and put all new parts in it for 250.00. Plus he painted it and it looks very nice I think. It sounds great also.
The name of the game is value.If you want i will give you my techs name in Austin. I could also help you find a suitable amp fpr conversion.Ialso know a guy in San Antonio-the guy who built my Bogen-who would do one for you im sure.Heres my other homebrew for 250.00(PLUS COST OF lAFAYETETT AMP).;
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lol. Rich T has a pretty sweeet amp. he was gonna sell me another project but idk why he decided against
 
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Well, actually it's Rich_S you're talking 'bout, though Rich T has a sweet amp, too - the red JMP head.

My Bogen CHB20A started off looking like this:
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And wound up looking like this:

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The faceplate has since been changed to Univox-correct blue plastic. You can find the full story here. (Edit: there's a thumbnail pic missing from my webpage, but the link still works. Click the empty recctangle to see a high-res gut shot of the modded Bogen.)

I basically gutted the preamp and phase inverter and rewired them as an 18 Watter Lite II variant. The ECL86 output tubes are basically EL84's with a lower power rating so this amp's good for about 13 watts.

I have another CHB20A on the shelf. That one's going to get an EF86 pentode preamp tube and get wired up like the normal channel of a Vox AC-15. That way, I'll be able to compare a 12AX7 preamp to the EF86 and see what all the boutique hubub is about. THe second one is going to remain in its funky-cool old sheet metal enclosure.
 
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I've tried to buy the PA's to convert them, but the two latest amps I've bought cost roughly the same and they were already guitar amps. That didn't stop me from gutting the Bassman and rewiring it to blackface specs with a couple of twists and also modding the Butcher to accept EL34's. The PA amps are nice, but they go for as much as an "uncool" tube amp that could be modded to sweet specs themselves.
 
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Yeah - PA amp prices have been going up lately, thanks in part to threads like this and Dave Hunter's writings. Dave - I love ya, man, and you're a fountain of information, but speaking as someone on the buying end of the old-junky-tube-amp market, YOU'RE KILLIN' ME DUDE!
 
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I'm thinking about building one myself. If I do I will get a kit, probably from missonamps.

What are some of the hidden costs involved? Tools, etc? I really need to pick up that book on how amps work. Who wrote it? Was it Dan Erlewine?
 
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The afore-mentioned Dave Hunter, also Gerald Weber.
 
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I'm thinking about building one myself. If I do I will get a kit, probably from missonamps.

What are some of the hidden costs involved? Tools, etc? I really need to pick up that book on how amps work. Who wrote it? Was it Dan Erlewine?

Hidden cost #1: Time
#2: Shipping. Seriously, every time you have to order even the smallest part the shipping is at least $7.50
#3: Nuts, bolts, lockwashers, terminal strips, wire, drill bits, de-soldering braid, soldering iron tips, etc.
#4: Digital multi-meter (rated for at least 500 volts DC)

Check out this sticky on the Hoffman forum for tons of amp building references: http://www.el34world.com/Forum/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1206454819

My first build was a Tweed Princeton (5F2-A) from a kit... sort of. Turned out to be more or less a collection of parts, less really since I ended up replacing multiple components. I completely re-built the circuit board about a month ago and just realized that I never took any completed photos. Here's a shot of the "kit" pieces and the circuit board (version 1.0):

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I had one slight glitch on the first power up, but fixed it in about 10 minutes. It took at least a day to get the grin off my face :D

Build #2 was a Blackface Princeton Reverb (AA1164) for my oldest & best friend. No kit - just a lot of help from the guys on the Hoffman Amps forum. There's a longer post in here about that build with a lot more detail.

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This is a "gut shot" before I completed the de-bugging phase. Can't believe I didn't take a pic after getting it up and running! This is a wonderful amp, but getting the bugs out was very frustrating. Reverb & tremolo are both touchy circuits...

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My Blues Jr. is opened up on the bench right now - trying to track down this crazy snap/crackle/pop that comes & goes.

The next build will be version 2.0 of the Princeton Reverb, and that one's for me. After that, I think I've got a guy who "needs" a Super Reverb...

Cheers,

Chip
 
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Mine...It's a class-A, 20W, KT88 powered combo. Tung-Sol pre's, JJ output tube, and a Celestion G12H30. Cab is 1/4-sawn Curly Sycamore...The hardest part was the finishing of the cab...Mucho-Worko!!!
 
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Cablah - that is a work of art! Love the way the grain pops on the cab. Isolating the amp from the speaker cab is a great concept too. That adjustable vent on the back is too cool... :cool:

Was the fan added as a necessity or just a precaution?

Chip
 
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Cablah - that is a work of art! Love the way the grain pops on the cab. Isolating the amp from the speaker cab is a great concept too. That adjustable vent on the back is too cool... :cool:

Was the fan added as a necessity or just a precaution?

Chip

Thanks Chip...glad you like it. The fan is overkill...of course the amp runs warm, but the fan isn't entirely necessary. I no longer "play-out" in bars/clubs, so the time the amp is "on", isn't really all that long. In fact, I've since pulled it from the cab...makes tweaks/maintenance that much easier.

Oh yeah.......it sounds really good. Nice, Honkey/Throat-y/Tube-y Tone. It still gives me a chubby after all these years.
 
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