Oh God man let me tell you about these amps

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My Engls just came in today. First box opened was my Screamer 50 reverb. Second amp was the my Steve Morse signature head. Now the Screamer 50 is a very good all around amp; however, I decided that for a 1x12 the Laney TT50 is a better combo.

The Screamer is a great combo for cleans and high gain. By itself, mid gain sounds are not a flavorful. However, once you kick in a little OD or boost, the mid gain sounds come alive. The reverb works quite well but I actually prefer the reverb on the Laney. It's a little bit more natural and not as washy sounding as it gets on the Screamer but the Screamer reverb is outstanding so could just be my personal opinion.

I chose the Laney beacuse of it's spongy 2nd channel that goes from an incredible jazzy/bluesy clean to a really juicy crunch gain. The 3rd channel is more of the same but with an additional gain boost and tight setting for a less spongy feel.

Overall I'm just happier with the cleans, crunch and touch response of the Laney. I prefer the Screamer as a head more than the combo. It sounds way way better through a 2x12 or 4x12 than it does in a combo. The TT50 makes a better 1x12 in my opinion.

Now lastly but not least, the Engl Steve Morse. I knew it was a great amp. It's based on the Invader. The problem with the Invader is most people absolutey love it and some hate it. Well the Steve Morse is an invader with all kinds of mid shaping controls and takes away all the complaints about the Invader mids anyone could possilbly complain about.

Not to mention it's the most boutique sounding and feeling amp of ANYTHING Engl makes save for the SE which I can't afford to even demo because they're so expensive.

However, the dynamics and response of this amp is amazing. You would have to expect that those kinds of dynamics from a player like Morse who utilizes so many playing techniques, and makes so much use of his volume knob.

What you start off with on the Morse head is a phenomenal clean channel. I mean a one of the best clean channels there could possibly be. The amp has a high input button which is basically like having a high/low input amp like a Plexi or JCM 800, except instead of plugging into another jack you just engage the switch.

Once you pop it into high input, the clean channel turns into a JCM800 with about as much gain as a JCM800 can get I suppose. It will not sound just like a JCM 800 with the knobs at 12:00. You have to boost the high mids and lower the bass and low mids a little to get that JCM 800 upper mid brightness. Then it's dead on JCM 800 territory. Dial back the guitar volume and easy AC/DC and bluesy clean leads.

Channel 2 is so far my favorite. It's hotrodded british tone that only Engl can make. Almost any British overdrive sound is in this channel. When you dial those mids back and push the presence you're in Vox territory. Push the mids and you're in Marshall territory. Drop mids and push the presence and you start getting into Orange territory but not much fuzz.

I've only had the amp for a couple of hours and am limited how much I can play it due to my recent surgery, but I have already found a plethora of useable sounds without doing anything except leaving the knobs on 12:00 and switching buttons between low mid/high mid emphasis.

Now channel 3. This has got to be the most incredible solo tone I've ever heard. I mean all the greatest tones you can think of like Bogner Ecstasy and Soldano SLO well this is up there on that exact level no doubt. In fact, Engl may have pushed the envelope in the world's greatest lead tone with the Steve Morse head.

Now if you think you're going to plug in and sound like Steve Morse it's not like that at all. I think signature amps get a bad rap too often because most of the time you plug into them you easily achieve your own sound. The Richie Blackmoore is another great exception as well.

After having my new dream amp now in my hands for only a matter of hours, I feel compelled to inform everyone how incredible this amp is.

I was seriously torn between it and the Invader which I've played, wondering if I should have gone with the Invader instead. Now I know I couldn't have made a better choice.

Having had a Powerball II, Fireball 100, and Screamer, I can say that if Engl takes all their amps and goes more in the Morse and Blackmore signature direction as far as just plain great tone and feel (and industrial strength builds), then Engl could rule the amp world.

Oh and you know that blue front plate you see on the Steve More ads, well it doesn't look light blue like that. It's a dark blue color that looks really cool. My picture didn't come out that well but you should see this thing with the tubes warm and LED's on.

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Man, that looks great and seems to sound even better. Will be interested to hear more reviews when you've spent more time with it. Take a pic with it all lit up and the tubes glowing.
 
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god******...now i really want one of those morse amps. what a shining review. it wouldve made it a whole lot easier on me if you said it sucked ass. :D

*edit- i just looked at the pricetag. uggghh.
 
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Man, that looks great and seems to sound even better. Will be interested to hear more reviews when you've spent more time with it. Take a pic with it all lit up and the tubes glowing.

Yeah I'm sorry about that. My hand is all messed up from my recent vertebraete surgery so I can hardly hold the camera straight right now. I'll try to get some decent photos and sound clips up in the coming weeks.
 
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do you think you could write a longer review of the amps? i almost have the patience to sit through this whole thing in one sitting and i have literally nothing planned for tomorrow.
 
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Sweet, I demoed the morse once. Surely a nice amp, has the engl sound though. A jcm 800 sounds like an 800, and an engl sounds like an engl, imo neither sound similar at all, but both have really nice sounds of their own. After having my jcm800 for the last 5 years, I decided to add another amp which was an engl a few months ago, engl's just weren't for me. I got rid of it for a JVM. I'm just a marshall guy, what can I say. Post some clips when your healthy, and congrats on the kickass amp !
 
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The morse is an amazing amp. I've had a lot of experience with the ENGLs and the Morse is by far my favorite. I've always liked a very smooth tone, but still retaining that articulation and not being "spongy". The Morse does that in Spades, and more! Just an absolutely wonderful amp. I could use more describey words, but you really just need to try one.

The Invader is also a great amp, and I've demoed them together. The Invader is inherently a bit brighter, which leads to perceiving a bit more gain for metally type music, but doesn't quite have that same smoothness that the morse has. I could never decide what I would prefer, the Mid-Matrix Morse or the 4th Channel on the invader. Both are great in their own ways, I guess.

The only amp I've found that could replace my Carvin Legacy.
 
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man, I'm so jealous of your Engl's collection :bowdown:
I'd like to upgrade my Engl Thunder to the Engl Steve Morse in the future, and this review just started the gas again.
you'll feel a lot better after the surgery with these new amps.

long life to metal :headbang:
 
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I've played through a few Engls over the years and the one that left a lasting impression on me was the Rickie Blackmore. That thing had plexi tone in spades.
 
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Sweet, I demoed the morse once. Surely a nice amp, has the engl sound though. A jcm 800 sounds like an 800, and an engl sounds like an engl, imo neither sound similar at all, but both have really nice sounds of their own. After having my jcm800 for the last 5 years, I decided to add another amp which was an engl a few months ago, engl's just weren't for me. I got rid of it for a JVM. I'm just a marshall guy, what can I say. Post some clips when your healthy, and congrats on the kickass amp !

Well it depends on how you dial in the mid matrix. If you emphasize the upper mids it does get very similar to a JCM 800. I recently sold my 2004 JCM800 reissue and missed it until now. I can get all that tone and a lot more through my Morse head. Clipping the mids out and dialing it in real bright gets more of a Voxy tone.

Steve Morse wanted a Marshally sound and he liked the Invader but wanted more mid control. The Invader is kind of Engl's take on the Marshall thing except they do it really well.

I'm not surprised the Morse head does so the whole British flavor so well. Believe it or not, if you have some bright single coils you can get fairly close to a Hiwatt on the clean channel low input. It stays clean and has a lot of power, 120w but has a little smoother punch than Hiwatts in my opinion.

The morse is an amazing amp. I've had a lot of experience with the ENGLs and the Morse is by far my favorite. I've always liked a very smooth tone, but still retaining that articulation and not being "spongy". The Morse does that in Spades, and more! Just an absolutely wonderful amp. I could use more describey words, but you really just need to try one.

The Invader is also a great amp, and I've demoed them together. The Invader is inherently a bit brighter, which leads to perceiving a bit more gain for metally type music, but doesn't quite have that same smoothness that the morse has. I could never decide what I would prefer, the Mid-Matrix Morse or the 4th Channel on the invader. Both are great in their own ways, I guess.

The only amp I've found that could replace my Carvin Legacy.

Man my first impression of channel 3 on the Morse was Invader all the way. It's that smooth overdrive like the invader has with a lot of gain on the high input. I'm sure it's not spot on Invader but that's what I was thinking. Channel 3 is simply full of amazing tones. Channel 2 is spongier and channel 3 has a better response. If you grip the pick close to the edge you can pinch just about any harmonic possible.

I haven't even really read the manual. I read through it before getting it but dived right in. I need to get a handle on the mid matrix. It does a lot. So far I'm not getting the presence I want but I think it's there somewhere between the high mid settings and high presence settings. This is not an easy amp to dial in.

man, I'm so jealous of your Engl's collection :bowdown:
I'd like to upgrade my Engl Thunder to the Engl Steve Morse in the future, and this review just started the gas again.
you'll feel a lot better after the surgery with these new amps.

long life to metal :headbang:

Honestly I'm feeling pretty depressed. I can't play more than 15-20 minutes without my hands hurting. I have to ice them down. I'm trying my best not to overdo it but going without playing drives me nuts.

I've played through a few Engls over the years and the one that left a lasting impression on me was the Rickie Blackmore. That thing had plexi tone in spades.

Yes it does. Interesting how spot on Marshall it sounds with the 5881's huh? After I first played one I always thought they had EL34's. I didn't know until well after that they use 6L6's in the Blackmore. Pretty great amp. Some people swear it's the best Engl.

I had a Thunder and it was great albeit a bit bright.

So is the Screamer but they don't sound so bright in a mix. I dial the presence back most of the time.
 
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