Omg! :

[tauromastr33]

Last night i took my roland jc and the rest of my stuff to a studio. I´ve always used the ones offered by the studio, but this time i commited a huge mistake, i thought i would be able to achieve the sound i like at home.
The clean sound was ok, but when i turned my pedals on... omg... pure crap.
i dunno if the wooden floor of my house and the furniture helps me here, but in the studio... i was embarassed, u know.

maybe the volume was too high, and it distorted the sound by itself an the pedal ruined everything, we all know that the jc distortion sucks.
I´m thinking bout a new amp, maybe a half stack, but they ´re so damn expensive!
The music stores here in Brasil usually sell only combos n stuff ,dang.

Any suggestions?

Thanx

 

[Kac]

Re: Omg! :

Suggestion: There's nothing wrong with a good combo amp. If you're looking for a new amp look for an all tube 30-50 watt combo amp. made by any respectable company; Fender, Marshall, Mesa, Peavey, Orange, and Laney are all possibilities. Another good thing about the tube combos, you can use your distortion pedal for dist. and the cleans on the amp will be wonderful.

Just an idea from a guy who traded in his half stack for a 40 watt combo amp with 1 12" speaker.

Rock On :smoker:

 

[tauromastr33]

Re: Omg! :

Thanks kac


But do u guys think the problem of the amp sounding different in my room and in the studio is really the volume thing? it starts to overdrive?
i really like the sound of it here, but yesterday... :22:
sounded like an rust chainsaw, i was like... wtf!

 

[Quencho092]

Re: Omg! :

when you turn up a low wattage solid state amp too much it clips like a mofo and sounds like that rusty chainsaw you speak of. A decent lower powered tube amp like Deluxe reverb reissue will get you that 'professional' level of volume, and a more 'professional' presentable tone if you put it that way.

That's why solid state PA's have so many watts-because if you do turn them up that high, they will sound like garbage.

 

[75lespaul]

Re: Omg! :

when you turn up a low wattage solid state amp too much it clips like a mofo and sounds like that rusty chainsaw you speak of. A decent lower powered tube amp like Deluxe reverb reissue will get you that 'professional' level of volume, and a more 'professional' presentable tone if you put it that way.

That's why solid state PA's have so many watts-because if you do turn them up that high, they will sound like garbage.

OH SO TRUE!!!!

 

[75lespaul]

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What effects do you use? Are they pedals which are made to go in front of the amp, rack effects or a preamp which really shouldn't go through the amp because you get--well, I don't know how to describe it, but it doesn't work. I had a Zoom 4040 and a Line 6 Pod Pro both of which sounded exceptionally well through a PA or recorder but when I plugged them into my Marshalls and Fenders (all vintage by the way) they sounded like dog crapola. :smack:

 

[tauromastr33]

Re: Omg! :

What effects do you use? Are they pedals which are made to go in front of the amp, rack effects or a preamp which really shouldn't go through the amp because you get--well, I don't know how to describe it, but it doesn't work. I had a Zoom 4040 and a Line 6 Pod Pro both of which sounded exceptionally well through a PA or recorder but when I plugged them into my Marshalls and Fenders (all vintage by the way) they sounded like dog crapola. :smack:

Now that´s what i´m talking about heheh

I´m using a Metal zone/ mxr dist+/graphic eq /delay and a crybaby wah, and it´s a jc50
I´ve tried the same with some marshalls and they sounded "ike dog crapola" too heheh. Thank god u helped me, all my friends are thinking i´m insane..

"what? it´s a marshall! How can it sound bad?"

 

[75lespaul]

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Oh my friend, Marshalls can sure sound bad! Back in the eighties when I was young and stupid I had a JCM800 that sounded ungodly but I had an effects loop installed and it completely sucked the life out of the amp. I didn't know anything about circuitry back then so I sold the amp. All I knew was that I ruined it. I had the loop removed, but it still wasn't the same. Marshalls don't seem to take to pure distortion pedals too well either. Overdrives react better. Of course there are a million different pedals out there, but I mainly used a Rat and MXR distortion + like you.

I played a JC120 in the rehearsal studio with a Rat and it sounded fine. That amp had more wattage so maybe that was the problem with your setup? The carpets in a rehearsal studio as well as the sound dampening stuff soak up tone as well and if you're trying to play with a band with a 50 watt solid state amp? Something is going to break!

Anyway, hope I helped out some. That's what my ancient 41 year old ears have noticed.

 

[tauromastr33]

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Thank u so much
You REALLY helped me.
I´ve got a lot to learn, and i know it won´t be easy, but what the hell ,that´s the fun part of it.