Re: Opinions on metal tone
Based on the responses (which are divided!), I think I will try turning
up the sag, and not doing so much about the gain level other than turning it slightly up as well, as I will double track this.
sounds like a chainsaw, I like it.
dang, peeps have to drop even more cash for cabs with that thang? do you have to put a quarter in to start it up too, hehe
It's seriously the best investment I've done in a long time. I love the thing.
I think it's missing something in the mids. Maybe back off the gain a tad, and experiment with adding some body. Sounds just a bit flat, to me. JMHO, of course!
Good work, though!:beerchug:
Gots plenty of mids in it though. But I do have a lot of treble, add to that the bright switch. The presence is also a tad too much. But I have also turned down the treble with an EQ from 8K or something. Not sure about the gain bit though. I was initially thinking the same as you, that it had a little too much gain, but VK and PM want more saturation. Not sure if the sag can do that alone, but I'll experiment.
Sh!t, I love it.
First thing to my mind was that it would sit PERFECTLY in a mix with bass and drums.
Which shows me your maturity as a player --- not trying to do it all with the six string.
I love it. Don't touch it.
Now here's where I get unsure. :laugh2: You're really in favor of the tone, especially with a band setting (which was what I intended to use the tone for). I might eventually try this clip with bass and drums when I get more time on my hands.
Thanks for the compliments by the way!
I agree with Jeff/VK, it's too dry sounding. Do bear in mind both him and I are Andy Sneap forumites, so that explains our taste in saturated guitar tones :laugh2:
Seriously though, don't be afraid to up the gain. As much as people often say "TURN DOWN THE GAIN DANG NABBIT!" sometimes just turning it up is really the way to go.
Of course I don't mean crank the gain to 11, but if crank it enough that the palm mutes reach their full intensity and chunk, then you have enough gain and don't need anymore.
It's quite a lot of gain, but that shouldn't be the max gain on the 5150/Dual Recto type models by any stretch of the imagination.
Some more saturation and slightly lower mid sag is never a bad thing.
You do perhaps trade a tiny bit of clarity with that approach (at least if you're wanting to play full, big 6 string chords anyway), but it just sounds better for metal really
An entirely new landscape for me this, dude. I will get back after some more experimentation.
Dry is good - especially for rhythm tracks - keep them bone dry like you have it The sound you have right now will work awesome with bass and drums. Tone is the most subjective thing in the world but what's important to remember is that you keep within your sonic realm (i.e. stay out of the bass space and the cymbal space) That way, when you start adding everything else together it will work and sound good. I hear plenty of guitar tones out there that sound great by themselves but slam them together with other instruments and they all barf on each other. Best way to fester out a guitar tone is get it with the other instruments and tweak to get it in the best spot sonically.There's no right or wrong - just need to listen to your ears - not your brain.
You and I6 agree. Makes me unsure!
When summer comes, I will try to make a full band mix with this clip and sound, and a new clip with an adjusted sound with a more saturated tone. Could be interesting.
it will still be clear that the tone is too dry and have an unpleasant character in the upper mids
Might be attributed to high treble, bright switch and presence levels.. I'll adjust those parameters!
