Opinions on Schecter?

[astrozombie]

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but for a metallica sound are emgs better?

 

[FrankyBoy]

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but for a metallica sound are emgs better?

 

[ExplorersRock]

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I am not really one to brag about anything but why would you sound funny bragging about owning a guitar that is "Attractive, affordable, reliable and completely usable"?

If there's no shame in bragging about something that is "Attractive, affordable, reliable and completely usable", then can I brag about my suit that I bought at Target? I mean hey, I shouldn't feel funny about that, should I?:bling:

Seriously though, Schecters are pretty nice guitars. I have a C1 Custom in Trans Blue. They're great bang for the buck, they play well, and if you're willing to spend a little extra, you can get some solid pickups in them like EMGs or Duncans. My only complaints are about preference, not reliability, function or build quality. Play one and if you dig it, buy it.:headbang:

 

[Jeremiah]

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Overall, I'd say they are well-made, good value guitars manufactured in the far east - and there are lots of other well-made, good value guitars manufactured in the far east, possibly in the same factory.

So they're worth buying if you find a model or combination of woods/pickups etc you particularly like.

Personally, I'm a fan of the Tempest shape, partly because it is not an exact clone of some 50s or 60s classic but still looks like a guitar. They can suffer from neck-dive, however.

 

[guitarrob]

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If there's no shame in bragging about something that is "Attractive, affordable, reliable and completely usable", then can I brag about my suit that I bought at Target? I mean hey, I shouldn't feel funny about that, should I?:bling:

Should you? Who cares what other people think in that respect.
If you got a great deal on a high end product why would it bother you?
However, if a brand name or higher price tag for the same quality is your thing..to each their own.:scratchch

Seriously though, Schecters are pretty nice guitars. I have a C1 Custom in Trans Blue. They're great bang for the buck, they play well, and if you're willing to spend a little extra, you can get some solid pickups in them like EMGs or Duncans. My only complaints are about preference, not reliability, function or build quality. Play one and if you dig it, buy it.:headbang:

What do you mean preference, do you mean they didn't have the options you were after or you just prefer other guitars?

I always prefer to play before I pay but in my local town there is one shop with a few schecters. The model I am interested in he doesn't have he will order whatever I want and price match but I don't get to play the exact model. He does have a few that are similar as I thnk I am down to a Blackjack or a Hellraiser.

 

[ExplorersRock]

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Let me just say that I'm not trying to come across as rude here, but I'm trying to be direct to give you a better explanation. I was trying to explain via humor, but I guess I failed in getting that across.

Should you? Who cares what other people think in that respect.
If you got a great deal on a high end product why would it bother you?

I think you've missed the point of Empty_Pockets post. There's a difference between taking pride in something and bragging about it. Taking pride in owning a Schecter makes perfect sense. But bragging about it would come off like Ten Things I Hate About You when the kid says, "I'm thinking of getting a Tercel. Yeah, that's a Toyota." Bragging about an affordable, commonly-found product like it's hot sh!t makes you look lame, that's the point. You said you don't brag so I doubt that it will come up but Schecters are not high-end guitars. What we're trying to say is if you said, "Yeah, I own a Schecter," it wouldn't be impressive like saying, "Yeah, I own a PRS Dragon III."

However, if a brand name or higher price tag for the same quality is your thing..to each their own.:scratchch

Seriously, don't be "that guy." You've been on this forum long enough to know that, a few turds aside, nobody here judges a guitar that way. Besides, are you telling me if you just won $350 million in the lotto, you'd pass-up Gibson, PRS, ESP, Fender, Ibanez, etc. and only consider buying a Schecter? I'll call bullsh!t on that every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

I agree in not paying more than you should for something of same quality. But Schecter's are mid-level quality in my book, and not comparable to the guitars you're hinting at. But if that's your concern, I'd go Ibanez. IMHO Ibanez will have a better guitar than Schecter for the same price.

What do you mean preference, do you mean they didn't have the options you were after or you just prefer other guitars?

I definitely owe you a better explanation here. What I mean is the only things I can really complain about with Schecter can be chalked up to what I personally prefer on a guitar. The main thing is the neck. I don't like thin necks like most Ibanez guitars, but the Schecter necks to me are typically too thick. Not a flaw in the guitar, but not what I prefer. It's the sort of thing that didn't bother you at first, but the more you notice it the less you like it. When I bought my C1 Custom, it had Vol/Vol/Tone. Again, I'd prefer Vol/Tone/Tone. I don't care for the Custom Custom it came with either. But a little soldering and a mag swap and now I have those items addressed(C8s rock, thank you Lt. Kojak & Blueman). I also didn't like that the pots were cheap crap. They can give me Duncans, but won't spend $15 more for good pots... don't get it. The ping locking tuners don't hold tune as well as Sperzels or Schallers either. But there's a solution for that too.:bigok:

But that's just it, this is nit-picking. Everything I just mentioned can be modified (save for the neck unless you want to risk having a luthier shave it down mg. I love that it came w/ a solid Tone Pros TOM. The finish is pretty nice, as is the craftsmanship. Only other complaint is that their tops are veneer only. They don't put a maple cap under them so you don't get any tonal benefits from your flame/quilt. It's just there to look good (although, my experience with Epi is they do have a maple cap under their veneers to add tone).

But I really mean this: Schecter to me is kind of a cross-breed (style-wise) between ESP and Gibson. Style and power with a little pizazz. In my opinion, Schecters give you every penny's worth of your money in the guitar. They are good, solid ,workhorse instruments that won't disappoint and will give you many happy jam sessions.

I am ExplorersRock, and I approve this message.:usa2:

 

[verbotenco]

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They are nice instruments, and still good value but not as much as they were a few years ago.

The designs look like they are aimed at metal players, but many of them have thicker necks than you would expect for that style of guitar.

I remember in the 90s Schecter was an expensive line of guitars with designs resembling Tom Anderson's, now it is geared toward metal players in affordable prices.

 

[Grenade]

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On layaway. Some orange pickups would be cool.:naughty:

 

[Coma]

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On layaway. Some orange pickups would be cool.:naughty:View attachment 32529

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My buddy has oen just like it, same color and everything. Never plugged it in, so I have no idea what it sounds like, but I think it could've done with a setup.

 

[Grenade]

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This is an '07 C1 Elite that has been hanging in this store since '07. Still has the plastic covering the pickups.

 

[KeeperOS]

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...the only things I can really complain about with Schecter can be chalked up to what I personally prefer on a guitar. The main thing is the neck. I don't like thin necks like most Ibanez guitars, but the Schecter necks to me are typically too thick. Not a flaw in the guitar, but not what I prefer. It's the sort of thing that didn't bother you at first, but the more you notice it the less you like it.

That's true, hence they did this:

If you like the chubbier necks pretty much any of the high-end ones mentioned so far.
If you're like me and prefer slimmer necks, the BlackJack SLS line is for you. They have them in red but I so much prefer them in blue

Their usual profile is chubby but not baseball-bat-thick.
The SLS profile is supposed to be thinner but still not Ibanez Wizard thin.

It goes down to what you prefer.

Also, I know they have the reputation of being metal oriented guitars but that's not true, at least not entirely, there are MANY models that are more vintage or old-school oriented like their California Vintage, the Hellcat, the Ultra, certain Solos like the Custom, Vintage and Special, the Stargazer, the PT (Tele) and their (Semi)Hollows, the Corsair and the TSH-1. And these are TYPES, each of them with at least 1-2 models. And then there's their acoustics.

 

[guitarrob]

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Let me just say that I'm not trying to come across as rude here, but I'm trying to be direct to give you a better explanation. I was trying to explain via humor, but I guess I failed in getting that across.

I guess my humor is lost on others also

I think you've missed the point of Empty_Pockets post. There's a difference between taking pride in something and bragging about it. Taking pride in owning a Schecter makes perfect sense. But bragging about it would come off like Ten Things I Hate About You when the kid says, "I'm thinking of getting a Tercel. Yeah, that's a Toyota." Bragging about an affordable, commonly-found product like it's hot sh!t makes you look lame, that's the point. You said you don't brag so I doubt that it will come up but Schecters are not high-end guitars. What we're trying to say is if you said, "Yeah, I own a Schecter," it wouldn't be impressive like saying, "Yeah, I own a PRS Dragon III."

As I said, not my thing no matter what I have.
What do you consider high end, a certain dollar value? Unless you have a really good budget to spend, you are not going to end up with anything "brag" worthy so the best you can do is to get the most for your money.

Seriously, don't be "that guy." You've been on this forum long enough to know that, a few turds aside, nobody here judges a guitar that way. Besides, are you telling me if you just won $350 million in the lotto, you'd pass-up Gibson, PRS, ESP, Fender, Ibanez, etc. and only consider buying a Schecter? I'll call bullsh!t on that every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

When did I say that? I look for the best guitar for my money. LIke Gibsons, but they are a bit out of my reach for the model I actually want. NEver played a PRS and the models I have seen just don't call out to me for overall looks either. Not a big Fender fan either. I like Ibanez and have been considering putting them on my NGD list. I never said I am only buying a schecter, I said I like what I have seen in their models so far within my budget but that is not to say I am not going to look at other guitars.

I agree in not paying more than you should for something of same quality. But Schecter's are mid-level quality in my book, and not comparable to the guitars you're hinting at. But if that's your concern, I'd go Ibanez. IMHO Ibanez will have a better guitar than Schecter for the same price.

What guitars am I hinting at, let me know so I can check them out also?
I guess I will have to compare them side by side but most of the models I have seen that would be considered high end carry much heavier price tags.

I definitely owe you a better explanation here. What I mean is the only things I can really complain about with Schecter can be chalked up to what I personally prefer on a guitar. The main thing is the neck. I don't like thin necks like most Ibanez guitars, but the Schecter necks to me are typically too thick. Not a flaw in the guitar, but not what I prefer. It's the sort of thing that didn't bother you at first, but the more you notice it the less you like it. When I bought my C1 Custom, it had Vol/Vol/Tone. Again, I'd prefer Vol/Tone/Tone. I don't care for the Custom Custom it came with either. But a little soldering and a mag swap and now I have those items addressed(C8s rock, thank you Lt. Kojak & Blueman). I also didn't like that the pots were cheap crap. They can give me Duncans, but won't spend $15 more for good pots... don't get it. The ping locking tuners don't hold tune as well as Sperzels or Schallers either. But there's a solution for that too.:bigok:

But that's just it, this is nit-picking. Everything I just mentioned can be modified (save for the neck unless you want to risk having a luthier shave it down mg. I love that it came w/ a solid Tone Pros TOM. The finish is pretty nice, as is the craftsmanship. Only other complaint is that their tops are veneer only. They don't put a maple cap under them so you don't get any tonal benefits from your flame/quilt. It's just there to look good (although, my experience with Epi is they do have a maple cap under their veneers to add tone).

But I really mean this: Schecter to me is kind of a cross-breed (style-wise) between ESP and Gibson. Style and power with a little pizazz. In my opinion, Schecters give you every penny's worth of your money in the guitar. They are good, solid ,workhorse instruments that won't disappoint and will give you many happy jam sessions.

I am ExplorersRock, and I approve this message.:usa2:

Well, getting every cent worth of my money in the guitar and ending up with a solid workhorse is exactly what I am after. Of course I have other guitars I would love to own (don't we all) but I am on a lower budget so I want to make sure I get the best for the limit. So far the schecters are at the top of my list but there are others that fall within my budget. Just wanted to get the opinions from people that have played them and I appreciate your opinions. Next week I will be researching a different insturment until I find the right one.

 

[distortionhead]

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I have had a few scheters i still own a 006 elite set neck and love it. They get a some what bad rap up he to an extent because GC puts them by the Lugans ?and the Daisy Rock guitars so people who are not in the know think they are that league of guitar.

Honestly i would say that the are a step above epi's and think if they got more exposure or proper product placement they would be a better known guitar.

 

[Gearjoneser]

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There's something I've got to say that's kinda interesting.

In 2011, when we showed up to User Group Day in Santa Barbara, I sort of expected Seymour to be using one of his dozens of KILLER guitars.....his 35th Ann. Tele, his classic teleGib, or hell....maybe even his signature Fender or Jeff Beck's old Yardbird Esquire.

Guess what he used? This guitar right here.....I think a C-1+ or whatever. The only difference was that he wasn't using the SD Designed JB/Jazz into a Mesa Rec like you're used to seeing.

Seymour kicked complete ass using his orange Schecter with Antiquities he probably wound into a mid 60's Pro Reverb. And his tone was great! His playing was great, and everyone scratched their head because they'd never heard a budget Schecter sound so good. Antiquities into a Pro Reverb, cranked, using his volume knob and fingers.

If that's not an endorsement, I don't know what is. The man owns some of the greatest guitars ever made....probably a room full of classics and customs.