Original Floyd Rose Pro Series Install

[mjharrison7]

I'm in desperate need of some help here! Does anyone have the low down on a video on how to swap Floyd Roses on a Jackson style guitar?

I have a Jackson JS32 DKM that had a stock Floyd and I just bought a new pro series and I went into the install totally blind since I've maintained them before but never did a swap. The Floyd is in there but the posts used to lower/raise the action don't move when adjusted. Any thoughts? Seems like it just won't move at all. Do the posts need to be set before restringing?


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[daenius]

Re: Original Floyd Rose Pro Series Install

Post a close up picture with good lighting please.

Did you use the studs from the OFR or did you use the stock studs? Studs and stud inserts are NOT standard across brands. Your stock Jackson licensed FR studs may or may not have the same threading and/or size as the OFR's studs.

Typically the posts don't need to be messed with much at all if you're doing a direct guaranteed drop-in swap that fits perfectly. Either you re-use the same old studs, or you are able to screw in the new studs very smoothly with no problems. The fact that your studs are stuck is a red flag showing either something went wrong in the installation or the parts just don't really fit together.

Are you sure the OFR is a confirmed direct swap of the Jackson Licensed FR?

 

[dave74]

Re: Original Floyd Rose Pro Series Install

hhhhmmmmmm,,,,,,,maybe the tension from the strings/springs is making it feel like they are "stuck".
Did they turn easily/loosely before adding the bridge/strings/tension?

 

[mjharrison7]

Re: Original Floyd Rose Pro Series Install

Post a close up picture with good lighting please.

Did you use the studs from the OFR or did you use the stock studs? Studs and stud inserts are NOT standard across brands. Your stock Jackson licensed FR studs may or may not have the same threading and/or size as the OFR's studs.

Typically the posts don't need to be messed with much at all if you're doing a direct guaranteed drop-in swap that fits perfectly. Either you re-use the same old studs, or you are able to screw in the new studs very smoothly with no problems. The fact that your studs are stuck is a red flag showing either something went wrong in the installation or the parts just don't really fit together.

Are you sure the OFR is a confirmed direct swap of the Jackson Licensed FR?

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[mjharrison7]

Re: Original Floyd Rose Pro Series Install

Post a close up picture with good lighting please.

Did you use the studs from the OFR or did you use the stock studs? Studs and stud inserts are NOT standard across brands. Your stock Jackson licensed FR studs may or may not have the same threading and/or size as the OFR's studs.

Typically the posts don't need to be messed with much at all if you're doing a direct guaranteed drop-in swap that fits perfectly. Either you re-use the same old studs, or you are able to screw in the new studs very smoothly with no problems. The fact that your studs are stuck is a red flag showing either something went wrong in the installation or the parts just don't really fit together.

Are you sure the OFR is a confirmed direct swap of the Jackson Licensed FR?

I did use the original studs from the Jackson guitar the screws fit into the studs just the same way that the originals fit in. I tried them before I put them in and they seem to thread the same way.

The studs are not actually stuck . They tighten and loosen but they don't take the OFR with it though. I could not be sure if it is a direct swap. When I was on the phone with OFR I did mention to them the model and they said that it would fit.


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[mjharrison7]

Re: Original Floyd Rose Pro Series Install

hhhhmmmmmm,,,,,,,maybe the tension from the strings/springs is making it feel like they are "stuck".
Did they turn easily/loosely before adding the bridge/strings/tension?

I think the springs are pretty tight as of now. The bridge does not move up or down but the screws will loosen and the more I loosen them the easier they loosen. Do you think loosening the screws will give me some area to play with as far as the bridge moving up and down?


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[daenius]

Re: Original Floyd Rose Pro Series Install

Is the bridge perfectly parallel to the body? Looks like it in the picture but I can't be sure, can you confirm?

As to turning the posts and not taking the OFR with it, if you already have the bridge parallel to the body, I highly suspect the OFR is either not perfectly sitting in the groove of the post (knife edge not actually positioned properly in the groove of the post), or that the post moves and the knife edge is just slipping out of the post's groove so that the post keeps moving but the OFR doesn't.

Turn the posts and carefully observe what the brige is doing as the post is being moved.

 

[mjharrison7]

Re: Original Floyd Rose Pro Series Install

Yes the bridge is parallel. I did suspect the same thing. I will have to de-string it and re center it to make sure that it is catching.

Stupid question just to be sure. The way that the studs operate is that the lip of the OFR catches on to the studs and allows it to move up and down right?


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[daenius]

Re: Original Floyd Rose Pro Series Install

Yes the bridge is parallel. I did suspect the same thing. I will have to de-string it and re center it to make sure that it is catching.

Stupid question just to be sure. The way that the studs operate is that the lip of the OFR catches on to the studs and allows it to move up and down right?


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You shouldn't have to de-string to do that, actually! Here, checkout this nifty tip by Rich Harris over at Ibanez Rules. That man dealt with nothing but Floyd style bridges for over 15 years and he knows all the tricks to make sure the knife edge and the posts are catching on properly: http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/remove.htm You can use that trick to remove the bridge with the strings still on, then re-attach to make sure it's catching on properly.

The knife edge of the OFR catches the groove of the stud posts, that makes them move up and down. Make sure the knife edge isn't catching the threads of the stud or catching on to the slanted parts of the stud.

 

[mjharrison7]

Re: Original Floyd Rose Pro Series Install

Very awesome! Thank you for your help! If you don't hear from me, that's means success!!!


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[mjharrison7]

Re: Original Floyd Rose Pro Series Install

You shouldn't have to de-string to do that, actually! Here, checkout this nifty tip by Rich Harris over at Ibanez Rules. That man dealt with nothing but Floyd style bridges for over 15 years and he knows all the tricks to make sure the knife edge and the posts are catching on properly: http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/remove.htm You can use that trick to remove the bridge with the strings still on, then re-attach to make sure it's catching on properly.

The knife edge of the OFR catches the groove of the stud posts, that makes them move up and down. Make sure the knife edge isn't catching the threads of the stud or catching on to the slanted parts of the stud.

That worked amazingly!!!! Felt I had to go back and tank you again! Works like a dream now!


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[daenius]

Re: Original Floyd Rose Pro Series Install

That worked amazingly!!!! Felt I had to go back and tank you again! Works like a dream now!


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OH HELL YEAH! Glad to help and VERY happy to hear that it's working out for you now! YANK ON THE WHAMMY ALL DAY EVERYDAY!

Actually, in all seriousness, you ARE supposed to yank on it often to make sure the springs don't get too stiff. The more you yank on it, the better it stays in tune! LOL

The tech section of Ibanez Rules is amazing! Rich Harris also mentioned that the best way to lubricate your knife edge-stud contact is Chapstick! It works amazingly well, gets rid all the stupid squeaks, and of course ensures that it returns perfectly every single damn time.