Overdrive in the loop

[Hsb]

Has anyone used an overdrive in the loop and it sound better there than in front of the amp? I have both versions of the TC Electronics MojoMojo (Standard moose crap brown and purple PG version)

In front of the Marshall, they sound dark and muddy, like a blanket had been thrown over the amp, in the loop, its much clearer, less woofy and all around better sounding. Havent tried this with my Tumnus or RatsBane.

 

[jeremy]

usually i dont like od in the loop but if its working for you, then it works for you!

 

[NegativeEase]

Ive done it, the only issue I ever had was if you leave your amp preamp feeding the OD instead of skipping it....

Sometimes preamp voicings are sort of gross feeding another line level clipping gain stage

 

[GuitarStv]

I've tried it, don't generally use.

If you're plugging into the front of your guitar amp it never seems to sound all that good with the OD pedal in the loop - I suspect that most of the ones I've got are designed to push the preamp not be pushed by the preamp.

It can be very interesting if you plug your guitar straight into the OD pedal in the loop though - effectively bypassing your tone stack on the amp and using the pedal as your preamp. With the right pedal setup it can sound like you get a whole different amp.

 

[Hsb]

Since posting, Ive run a couple of other drive pedals through the loop, and they just dont work in there. I have guitar into the front of the amp and the MM in the loop really opens up the sound of the pedal and yeah it does seem to be a different flavor of amp.

 

[Mincer]

It *can* work, but mostly doesn't. It is supposed to affect a basic guitar signal, not one coming from a preamp. But there are exceptions to every rule, and I am sure someone out there gets a great tone with an overdrive there.

 

[Demanic]

You'd probably be better off, depending on the OD pedal, running straight into the power section. Especially with the more "amp in the box" pedals.

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[Hsb]

The mojomojo is the only OD I hvae tried that sounds good in the loop. Every other one is best in front. I dont really get it, but that seems to work the best.

In front of the amp both are muddy, flubby, and juat craptacular. In the loop, it opens up, bright, kinda smooth and sounds more like what the Paul Gilbert clips sound like.

 

[Demanic]

Have you tried running your guitar straight into the power amp in?

One of these days. Ola Englund ran an MT-2 straight into a power section of a Randall and it sounded massive.

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[chadd]

In front of the amp the pedal is going through your preamp and being filtered by your settings. With pedal in the loop, your amp is being filtered by the pedal. I'm a bit surprised that no amount of EQ changes will get you where you want to go.

 

[Hsb]

I have played w the eq on both the amp and pedal and no amiunt of tweaking can help the tone of the pedal.

I was messing w it earlier, I could turn the bass almost all the way down and it was still muddy and flubby

 

[Demanic]

Yeah, but like a good Randall, right?

I'm not in the least disappointed with my RH-200. It's one of two amps that I'm considering trying the experiment with. 200 watts into two 150 watt speakers (Texan Heat/Swamp Thang, I think that you're familiar). Metalzone acting as pre-amp.
The other power section that I might try it through is the 100 Bogner power section of my Spidervalve, into my 280 watt 4x12 with the beloved 12M-70's.


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[eclecticsynergy]

Guitar > high gain OD > loop return works very well.
It's cool that the MojoMojo sounds good in your loop even when fed by the amp's front end, though.
If you're running a 4-wire system anyway, it forestalls any complicated switching arrangement and you can just kick it on.

 

[Demanic]

Proceed with caution. I would recommend powering up the pedal, turning it on, and setting all the knobs on the pedal all the way down, and plug your guitar in, before you turn the amp on. That way you minimize unnecessary transients into a wide-open power amp, and you start out with the lowest possible self noise. Bring EQ and gain and level knobs up gradually.

I would treat it like an amp: Guitar volume all the way down. Pedal on with master on 2. Adjust from there.

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[Demanic]

Not going to plug it into the power section with the master at noon. But even then, the cab could probably handle it.

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[Securb]

My Chandler Tube Screamer has INST and LINE level. I tried it in the loop of the JC120. It sounds sterile and loses all character and body. Infront of the amp it makes the JC120 sound like a Marshall.

 

[Demanic]

My Chandler Tube Screamer has INST and LINE level. I tried it in the loop of the JC120. It sounds sterile and loses all character and body. Infront of the amp it makes the JC120 sound like a Marshall.

For the perfect metal sound, run it in the loop with the bass and treble maxed on the JC-120. Leave the mids at Noon.

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